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I'll pass thank you.
They turned Valkyrie into a first cylon war ship despite the entire series and Razor ensuring it is a very modern battlestar. They created an entire hangar deck Galactica's pod couldn't fit. They created the Mk III, while the Mk II was the viper that fought the first cylon war (and was still the main craft for Galactica's air group on the final day of the war). They made Adama fly the Mk III Viper, even though the miniseries has him get all emotional over his Mk II Viper when restored by his deck crew. They changed how he got his callsign "Husker", from that being because of his voice, to some random guy who got killed in a Raptor. They change Galactica's weapons battery layout even during the series, despite a week at most passing for what is obviously a shipyard grade job (and, uhhh, well, Adama's mission was to pickup parts at Scorpia shipyards, so if Galactica was getting overhauled, why send a Raptor to pick up parts when the ship should've been going itself).
As you can see, I absolutely despise Blood and Chrome for what they did to my beloved series. And how many screwups they made in it.
Not automatically a screw up or a problem.
I've kind of assumed that the Valkyrie Class was developed as a cheaper replacement to the Artemis Class about halfway through the war. Unlike the older ship the Valkyrie proved to be easier to keep up to date and hence remained in service for over 50 years.
This would also explain why the FTL system on the Valkyrie was exposed - its an older war-era design that cut a few corners.
There you go Devs; You know have an explination for adding the Valkyrie class into the game in the future ;)
Valkyrie was meant to be a modern battlestar in the series. It was supposed to be the cheaper alternative to the Mercury, not Artemis.
All information given about the Valkyrie in the episode "Hero", Razor and the Plan, doesn't fit what Blood and Chrome tried to shove down our throats. Valkyrie can not be a First Cylon War ship as intended by the series.
Valkyrie was commanded by Adama during a very illegal, classified and stealthy operation to recon the armistice line. You don't send a 40 year old ship to do that, you send a state of the art ship. Which was why Valkyrie was created, to be a contrast to Galactica.
When Adama was removed from Valkyrie after the operation went FUBAR and assigned to Galactica, that was a de-facto demotion. He went from a state of the art warship, to an old battlestar that would be retired soon, so that Adama could retire along with it. That does not work when the ship you're demoted to is marginally older than the ship you're demoted from.
Also, both exterior and interior of Valkyrie look, purposely, like that of Pegasus. One only has to compare Pegasus' exterior to Galactica's exterior to understand Galactica is the older one. Same with Valkyrie. You're immediately able to see that Valkyrie is the modern one, not just a few years younger than Galactica.
The only reason Galactica was still in service 40 years after the war was because of her PR status. She was the first Jupiter class in active service and one of the few surviving Jupiters of the Cylon War. But she was taken out of front line service 20 years after the war and spend the next 20 years in a coast guard role, because she was made obsolete by a weapon to surpass metal gear newer battlestars, such as Valkyrie and Mercury.
You don't retire a 46~ year old ship, only to replace it with a 42~ year old ship. You don't task that 42 year old ship on a black ops mission as delicate as the one at the armistice line, you don't fill your shipyard's berths with it and you don't task three of them to guard the capital of the Twelve Colonies. You would do that with a state of the art, modern and new warship however.
Yes, I have opinions on the Valkyrie. Blood and Chrome only added her because she looks cool (which she does) and because they are so bloody cheap they reused her to save a few bucks.
A newer internal look is easy enough to explain if the Valkyrie class had undergone refits and partial redesigns over the years. Something that we know Galactica never got. Modern day warships get major refits every 20 years or so, so its not exactly a stretch to think the same would happen to Colonial Battlestars. Such changes in a major refit might well go beyond just changing out hardware. Indeed it might actaually make sense to modify the internal layout to a newer standized one.
The Valkyrie seen commanded by Adama might not be the exact same ship seen in Blood and Chrome some 45 years earlier. It might be a ship of the same class that was given that name, not the original Valkyrie, especially if the original ship did something notable during the war. Reusing names to honor older ships is far from unusual, HMS Victory was named after one of the several prior Victory's for example.
While it would be unusual today for a ship to be named after an earlier ship of the same class, we don't know enough about Colonial naming conventions to say if that would be unusual for them. They might simply have wanted to reuse the name, but decided that calling a Mercury Class ship 'Valkyrie' would be confusing to some.
Just because a ship is called 'new' doesn't automatically mean its a new design. They could be referencing the age of a ship rather than the age of that class. So calling Adama's Valkyrie a 'new ship' could just mean she has only entered service fairly recently. Rather than the class itself being a new design.
It is also possible that 'new' could mean that the ship had recently been given a major refit that bordered on a rebuild.
None of this means you are wrong in crititising the appearence of the Valkyrie in Blood and Chrome, or the reasons why.
My best guess would be that they needed a ship that wasn't Galactica and they already had the assets for the Valkyrie on file. So they used that instead of trying to make a 'new-old' ship. This was, after all, a low budget series and designing and building a GCI model to the standards needed for close up viewing would have taken time and money they most likely didn't have. Especially if it was going to share any screen time with the Galactica model which would be the most detailed model they had.
They actually did something almost identical in the mini-series. Even though we are told within the first ten minutes that 'Galactica is the last of her class*'. When Boomer and Helo are running for Caprica and move through the remains of destroyed ships, one of the wrecks we see is...a Jupiter class battlestar.
(*The actual line is 'The last of her type/class(?) still in service. So its possible this was another Jupiter class ship that was brought out of mothballs. This seems rather unlikely as there is no indication that the Colonial fleet would have had the time to do this. But still, its an explination.)