A Nice Touch

[Gubernacht]

I have been rewatching the BSG 2003 and I noticed a few times when Galactica jumped, the hangar pods would pull in to the hull for the jump and then pull out after the jump was complete. I just noticed when I was playing the campaign in the game with a Jupiter Class they actually do this as well.

To the devs and modellers I wanted to say nice touch, it is little things like this that lend an atmosphere to the game and make it a real BSG Game

[ramjbjb]

Well, Galactica DID jump once with the hangar pods deployed....

Not that she was able to do mcuh afterwards but hey, she did it :D.


At any rate yeah, there are a lot of minor touches and easter eggs here and there that when you notice them talk about how deep this guys went in making this a believable BSG game that matches what we saw in the series. as Totalbiscuit said in his review, one can instantly notice this guys before developers are fans of the franchise. And it shows :).

[Gubernacht]

This is true I just found this one particular nice :) But yeah I am not sure if Galactica broke her spine in the final jump was due to the hangar pods being deployed on the years of pounding she took in the series without the ability to dry dock her, especially since she was already like 45 years old or something at the time of the mini series. Still I haven't had this much fun in a game in a while.

[Phoenix]

Yep, there is a clear love of the source material in Deadlock, which is awesome for us BSG nerds. :)

[KaidenOZ]

i hate how they call them jupiter class battlestars. sadly it has never been confirmed as far as i could ever determin which was the correct naming of the class, be it jupiter or columbia class(i prefer columbia as the first ship of the class was the columbia and its a very common modern naming practice for warships) Columbia (the first was one of the first 12 Built. Sponsored by Virgon ) as per the reimagined series. actually that points out an issue in this game as they cite Galactica as the first of the jupiters don't they?

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crap i got off topic there. i love how they have the battlestars with there full armor loadout, the Galactica on the show, while never stated in the show, it is written in the official magazine first edition that the galactica had been stripped of most of its armor prior to decommission, hence the visible ribs over most of the ship

Edit 2 actually just spotted this....

Columbia class battlestars such as Galactica carry 24 larger dual-barrel cannons for use against enemy capital ships. Mercury class battlestars like Pegasus carry 28 heavy cannon and are also armed with 4 forward-mounted heavy anti-ship cannons. Such cannons have proven to be able to inflict significant damage upon Cylon basestars.

[York Crescentia]

Originally posted by KaidenOZ:

i hate how they call them jupiter class battlestars. sadly it has never been confirmed as far as i could ever determin which was the correct naming of the class, be it jupiter or columbia class(i prefer columbia as the first ship of the class was the columbia and its a very common modern naming practice for warships) Columbia (the first was one of the first 12 Built. Sponsored by Virgon ) as per the reimagined series. actually that points out an issue in this game as they cite Galactica as the first of the jupiters don't they?

Well considering how this game is officially canon; story, ships and all, Jupiter class is indeed the canonical name for the previously called "Galactica-Type"

Also, not every ship class HAS to be named after the first built...
The Permit class Nuclear Submarine is a...'good' example, i guess. The original one, Thresher, was lost during Testing and then the class was named after the 2nd one built, Permit.
Or it could be that Jupiter was the first one under construction and thus the class namesake but Galactica just happened to be the first one finished. Gato class Submarine during WW2 is a good one here. USS Drum was the first Gato class in service and not USS Gato. [/quote]


As for the topic, i do agree with the touch of the flight pods deploying and retracting. Although it doesnt seem to deploy out as far as the Show version, which probably has to do with the third 'arm' on each flight pod rather than the two per flight pod that we see later on.
The removal of the third arm on each side was probably either because of advances in Structural tech or the need to stretch the Flight Pods out even further when deploying them because of Landing Troubles for Vipers or Auxillary Craft.

[KaidenOZ]

first off, i never claimed all ships went by that naming system, just that it was very common in modern times, second afaik there never was a battlestar jupiter from the first 12 during the first cyclon war, the only reference i found for "jupiter class" in 15 years was from a non canon book series. where as columbia IS one of the first 12, follows a common naming precident and existed in the canon universe.

if we follow logical progression, the chances of it being columbia is more likly then jupiter in the canon universe. as i stated at the start though, it was never confirmed one way or another, just my personal preference.

[York Crescentia]

Well regardless, they had to get authorization from NBC for this game and this game 'is' Canon, so that means that Jupiter class is indeed the name. If they wanted to change the name to something else, they would most likely need to ask NBC again.

I havent played through the entire campaign yet so i dont know if they ever do reveal Battlestar Jupiter but, that's the name they have chosen for the ship class.
All we know from the intro is that Galactica was the 1st completed and Athena was the 5th Completed and that the Original 12 as a whole is called the "Jupiter Project"

Remember that they cut corners when building the original 12, most likely due to the stretched resources and the fact that Daidalos keeps moving, so if Jupiter was the first to start production, it may have encountered various troubles during construction.

If anything, if the name does end up being Columbia class later, it would be more for 'in honor' of Battlestar Columbia being destroyed during Operation Raptor Talon, the very last hours of the First Cylon War, rather than it being the actual namesake from the beginning.

[Gubernacht]

I had forgotten that this was canon, and had to get NBC's permission to make the game, and the do the story. As far as I know and I am on the second last story mission there is no mention of the Battlestar Jupiter...though in Single Player you could rename one, though I have used my own naming scheme.

[York Crescentia]

Well "Jupiter class" may not even refer to any Battlestar Jupiter at all, it could just be in reference to the project name "Project Jupiter"

[Vhen]

Actually, if you pay attention to opening cinematic.

They said the first completed was the Galactica. So going under that school of thought, it would be Galactica-class.

But yes, that has actually happened in reality. The Colorado-class Battleships of the United States Navy were fairly often called Maryland-class in Europe prior to WWII. Because USS Maryland (BB-46) was completed before USS Colorado (BB-45), despite having been ordered around the same time as USS Colorado. Using European convention, they would be Maryland-class Battleships. US Convention has the class name being that of the first ship authorised, despite a later ship in the authorised series being finished and commissioned first.

The British of course, have an entirely other class name convention they sometimes use where you have stuff like Weapon-class Destroyer containing HMS Rifle, HMS Musket, HMS Battleaxe, HMS Spear and the like... and no HMS Weapon.

[KaidenOZ]

the only reason i could ever see for the class being jupiter is keeping with the mercury and going for sol sytem planets to name class but it has never been verified. general research i have done over the years(yeah im a big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bsg nerd) is that columbia is more often cited as being the class for the galactica but there have been a few outliers calling it a jupiter class. wish the writers would just tell us lol

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another reference to columbia being the first, not galactica...
Re-imagined Battlestar Galactica From the new SciFi channel series. Differs considerably from the original, yet has many similarities. Drawn using plans released by the special effects company that designed her, as well as an incredible set of schematics drawn by Cobywan which provided details not visible in the official plans. XRaiderV1 has modified the drawing to show the missile launch tubes seen in "The Eye of Jupiter". The appear to be hidden behind sliding portions of the upper armor since they are not visible in any previous shots of the Galactica.


Battlestar Columbia (1) The first Battlestar to carry the name, the Columbia was lost in Operation Raptor Talon on the very last day of the Cylon War. Screencaps from Razor show additional armor plates pn the head, pods, and main hull.

[Jamian_Zephyr]

There has been a few examples throughout history of a ship class being called both the class name and the first ship commissioned (The Colorado-class Battleship was called the Maryland-class by European sources due to the Maryland being commissioned first).

The Jupiters (as I'll call them for sake of ease) seem to have a three-way. Could be identified as the Jupiter-class, Galactica-class, OR the Columbia-class, however, there seems to be no confirmed canon for the ship class being Columbia, as there are no actual reports saying the Columbia was the first built, but IS "one of the first twelve to be built." Since BSG:D is new canon, saying that Galactica is first built, it's safe to assume the class could be called either Jupiter-class, do to documentation, or Galactica-class, do to it being first built.

Going on a tangent, the original 1978 Battlestar never originally got an actual class name either, only going by the Galactica-class, or Ares-class, as a fan name. I actually enjoy the ships being called Artemis-class.

[Gubernacht]

Well also Jupiter is a Roman God, and since the colonies themselves are based on the zodiac we use in real life, and BSG likes to intermix mythlogy, with show, Apollo, etc I would say that that the Jupiter and later Mercury Class Battlestars are named after Gods rather than our planets

[KaidenOZ]

Originally posted by Gubernacht:

Well also Jupiter is a Roman God, and since the colonies themselves are based on the zodiac we use in real life, and BSG likes to intermix mythlogy, with show, Apollo, etc I would say that that the Jupiter and later Mercury Class Battlestars are named after Gods rather than our planets

ah yeah could have been that instead.

[Gubernacht]

Either way I am enjoying the game, despite what i feel are steps backwards with the patch today.