Is 'Sally' transgender?

[GTTV]

Description says it's about a boy but the name is Sally and 'he' (if 'he' is Sally) has girly hair. Haven't played, wanting to know before I do.

[shr3k]

These are stereotypes, he's a boy.

[lilidellls]

Nope, he is a boy. Like he dressed at dress one time(we can only see it at photo in 4th ep), but i think it`s just `couse he doesn`t care abt that steriotypes with "girl`s" and "boy`s" outfits XD

[GTTV]

Thanks for the clarification, I'll pass. Not interested in playing a transvestite

[anabtost]

Originally posted by GTTV:

Description says it's about a boy but the name is Sally and 'he' (if 'he' is Sally) has girly hair. Haven't played, wanting to know before I do.

[Fadassss]

he is dude, sally is a nickname for sal fisher and the ponytails are cool

[War-24]

Originally posted by GTTV:

Thanks for the clarification, I'll pass. Not interested in playing a transvestite

Wow, you must have an exorbitant intelligence to not play such an awesome game just because it's a guy with pig tails. Smh, education is scarce these days.

[CircuitGhost]

Ngl, I'm not for this whole LGBT thing. I won't go into detail, but I do think steve did have in mind Sal to be some what an androgynous character. Not exactly trans but shares the appearance traits of a woman and a man. Or a girl and a boy in his case since he's a kid.

[GTTV]

Originally posted by joy-cultist | CIAの介入:

Ngl, I'm not for this whole LGBT thing. I won't go into detail, but I do think steve did have in mind Sal to be some what an androgynous character. Not exactly trans but shares the appearance traits of a woman and a man. Or a girl and a boy in his case since he's a kid.

Thanks and I totally agree. I refuse to support a developer that chooses to represent a young boy as a transvestite/androgynous in a way that people think it's 'cool'. It's not.

[War-24]

Originally posted by GTTV:

Originally posted by joy-cultist | CIAの介入:

Ngl, I'm not for this whole LGBT thing. I won't go into detail, but I do think steve did have in mind Sal to be some what an androgynous character. Not exactly trans but shares the appearance traits of a woman and a man. Or a girl and a boy in his case since he's a kid.

Thanks and I totally agree. I refuse to support a developer that chooses to represent a young boy as a transvestite/androgynous in a way that people think it's 'cool'. It's not.

Who does this because it's "cool"? What's cool and uncool nowadays? It's not even LGBTQ related, it's a stereotype. Femboys can be straight, the same way Tomboys can be, and mind me... none of those two are part of the LGBTQ, it just happens people associate one with another.

I notice you heavily put it as a "woke" move, like Steve made Sal this way just to prove he's woke, you're making a fool of yourself.

You can choose not to play, I'm not here to convince you to buy it, I'm just pointing out that your arguments are a ridiculous attempt to demonize Steve, again throwing stereotypes.

[GTTV]

Originally posted by War-24:

Originally posted by GTTV:

Thanks and I totally agree. I refuse to support a developer that chooses to represent a young boy as a transvestite/androgynous in a way that people think it's 'cool'. It's not.

Who does this because it's "cool"? What's cool and uncool nowadays? It's not even LGBTQ related, it's a stereotype. Femboys can be straight, the same way Tomboys can be, and mind me... none of those two are part of the LGBTQ, it just happens people associate one with another.

I notice you heavily put it as a "woke" move, like Steve made Sal this way just to prove he's woke, you're making a fool of yourself.

You can choose not to play, I'm not here to convince you to buy it, I'm just pointing out that your arguments are a ridiculous attempt to demonize Steve, again throwing stereotypes.

The responses I received described it as 'cool'. I notice you aren't badgering them about the definition of 'cool'.
I don't care about steve or demonising him. Your reference of 'stereotypes' says a lot. YOUR argument flawed, not ours.

[War-24]

Originally posted by GTTV:

Originally posted by War-24:

Who does this because it's "cool"? What's cool and uncool nowadays? It's not even LGBTQ related, it's a stereotype. Femboys can be straight, the same way Tomboys can be, and mind me... none of those two are part of the LGBTQ, it just happens people associate one with another.

I notice you heavily put it as a "woke" move, like Steve made Sal this way just to prove he's woke, you're making a fool of yourself.

You can choose not to play, I'm not here to convince you to buy it, I'm just pointing out that your arguments are a ridiculous attempt to demonize Steve, again throwing stereotypes.

The responses I received described it as 'cool'. I notice you aren't badgering them about the definition of 'cool'.
I don't care about steve or demonising him. Your reference of 'stereotypes' says a lot. YOUR argument flawed, not ours.

I don't understand... you can't say "cool game"? And... mind me, search for the definition of the slang "cool" it might not mean what you thought.

Why would I badger people for calling the game in a positive manner that promotes it without specifying why.

Yes... maybe I'd understand if they said "oh Sally face is cool because it's a feminine kid which at some point is wearing a dress in a picture" which... ok, I don't agree you should criticize this either, but I'll let it slide.

Again... I don't like pointing things out, but all I see from you is vague and measured transphobia. Which... you remind me of someone with exactly a Jinx pfp 🤨 with the literal same takes... genius person but with oddly bad takes regarding this subject.

"I don't wanna support a developer that shows us a transvestite/androgynous child" - although not transphobic, I believe that's exactly why you ask if Sal is Trans, you'd say the same thing. "I won't support a developer that shows us a trans kid" which... ok, I don't understand it, but ok.

It's a very complicated subject, I won't derail much further into it.

And YES YOU ARE demonizing Steve. Because he's the dev and you specifically said you don't wanna support him because again... supposedly woke figures (mind me... androgynous/transvestite people exist since clothes)

So you're b!tching about a non-existant issue, one you made in your mind, one made out of modern stereotypes.

And who's "ours"? No one said the same thing with you. No one said "yeah ♥♥♥♥ Steve for making Sal a femboy! HE'S A DEMON!"
No, people just said "no, he's a boy" that's it. Except a guy who said "pigtails are cool" SO WHAT? I can't say HAIR is cool? SORRY! PLEASE DON'T EXECUTE ME DICTATOR!
Ridiculous...

[GTTV]

Originally posted by War-24:

I don't understand... you can't say "cool game"? And... mind me, search for the definition of the slang "cool" it might not mean what you thought.

Why would I badger people for calling the game in a positive manner that promotes it without specifying why.

Yes... maybe I'd understand if they said "oh Sally face is cool because it's a feminine kid which at some point is wearing a dress in a picture" which... ok, I don't agree you should criticize this either, but I'll let it slide.

Again... I don't like pointing things out, but all I see from you is vague and measured transphobia. Which... you remind me of someone with exactly a Jinx pfp 🤨 with the literal same takes... genius person but with oddly bad takes regarding this subject.

"I don't wanna support a developer that shows us a transvestite/androgynous child" - although not transphobic, I believe that's exactly why you ask if Sal is Trans, you'd say the same thing. "I won't support a developer that shows us a trans kid" which... ok, I don't understand it, but ok.

It's a very complicated subject, I won't derail much further into it.

And YES YOU ARE demonizing Steve. Because he's the dev and you specifically said you don't wanna support him because again... supposedly woke figures (mind me... androgynous/transvestite people exist since clothes)

So you're b!tching about a non-existant issue, one you made in your mind, one made out of modern stereotypes.

And who's "ours"? No one said the same thing with you. No one said "yeah ♥♥♥♥ Steve for making Sal a femboy! HE'S A DEMON!"
No, people just said "no, he's a boy" that's it. Except a guy who said "pigtails are cool" SO WHAT? I can't say HAIR is cool? SORRY! PLEASE DON'T EXECUTE ME DICTATOR!
Ridiculous... :AnnoyedSally:

Your mental gymnastics and over-the-top reaction hilariously proves my point. You're getting very upset and defensive because I don't want to buy a game that positively represents a child experiencing gender dysphoria/gender identity disorder.
Your words:
"all I see from you is vague and measured transphobia", "although not transphobic, I believe that's exactly why you ask if Sal is Trans, you'd say the same thing", "androgynous/transvestite people exist since clothes", "So you're b!tching about a non-existant issue, one you made in your mind, one made out of modern stereotypes."
The only one making up non-existent issues is yourself. Your argument boils down to you calling me transphobic. I don't have to buy or support the same games you like. The fact you are dying on this hill says ALOT about what this game means to you and what it's purpose is.

[War-24]

Originally posted by GTTV:

Originally posted by War-24:

I don't understand... you can't say "cool game"? And... mind me, search for the definition of the slang "cool" it might not mean what you thought.

Why would I badger people for calling the game in a positive manner that promotes it without specifying why.

Yes... maybe I'd understand if they said "oh Sally face is cool because it's a feminine kid which at some point is wearing a dress in a picture" which... ok, I don't agree you should criticize this either, but I'll let it slide.

Again... I don't like pointing things out, but all I see from you is vague and measured transphobia. Which... you remind me of someone with exactly a Jinx pfp 🤨 with the literal same takes... genius person but with oddly bad takes regarding this subject.

"I don't wanna support a developer that shows us a transvestite/androgynous child" - although not transphobic, I believe that's exactly why you ask if Sal is Trans, you'd say the same thing. "I won't support a developer that shows us a trans kid" which... ok, I don't understand it, but ok.

It's a very complicated subject, I won't derail much further into it.

And YES YOU ARE demonizing Steve. Because he's the dev and you specifically said you don't wanna support him because again... supposedly woke figures (mind me... androgynous/transvestite people exist since clothes)

So you're b!tching about a non-existant issue, one you made in your mind, one made out of modern stereotypes.

And who's "ours"? No one said the same thing with you. No one said "yeah ♥♥♥♥ Steve for making Sal a femboy! HE'S A DEMON!"
No, people just said "no, he's a boy" that's it. Except a guy who said "pigtails are cool" SO WHAT? I can't say HAIR is cool? SORRY! PLEASE DON'T EXECUTE ME DICTATOR!
Ridiculous...

Your mental gymnastics and over-the-top reaction hilariously proves my point. You're getting very upset and defensive because I don't want to buy a game that positively represents a child experiencing gender dysphoria/gender identity disorder.
Your words:
"all I see from you is vague and measured transphobia", "although not transphobic, I believe that's exactly why you ask if Sal is Trans, you'd say the same thing", "androgynous/transvestite people exist since clothes", "So you're b!tching about a non-existant issue, one you made in your mind, one made out of modern stereotypes."
The only one making up non-existent issues is yourself. Your argument boils down to you calling me transphobic. I don't have to buy or support the same games you like. The fact you are dying on this hill says ALOT about what this game means to you and what it's purpose is.

And your point is...? [BLANK] there's no point you made. You just said random gibberish about not buying because of some whatever mental limitation that dosen't allow you to understand purely normal scenarios.

And you're such a fool, NOWHERE in this game is Sal represented as having gender dysphoria or any identity disorder, you literally talk out of your ass. Watch the game, document yourself before talking. Not knowing what you're talking about and arguing is the most idiotic thing one can do in a thread.

Of course I'm gonna defend a game I love, the same way you defend your whatever political beliefs when someone attacks them. The thing is... you didn't say "I don't like it, I won't buy it"

You specifically mentioned things that heavily tend to be transphobic and you're also uncultivated about the game and spread misinformation.

There's no way I won't protect the image of the game, because there's literally no point to make against it. It's not controversial as "The Coffin of Andy and Leyley"
Sally Face is simply a visual novel that I can't realistically find bad points about. Everything is justified. Sal killed justified contrary to the self justification done by Andy and Leyley

Your points are truly pointless and very vague (if they even exist)

[marie_nova]

куда я зашла...

[Mav]

Low quaility bait but if you truly believe that long hair on a boy is some kind of agenda, you forsaken God's ight long ago. Try to find it and maybe them you will live with love instead of hatred.