Episode 5 ending: theories, secret epilogue? (spoilers)

[Invisigoth]

Hi again! I just finished playing Episode 5 and I'm left with more questions than answers. To be honest I feel puzzled and I don't know how to quite feel about this ending... This episode was way too short, farfetched and straight out weird (yes, even for Sally Face standards!).

Is there maybe a secret ending that I didn't unlock? This all seemed way too abrupt. I've been searching online the last 10 minutes but the majority of people don't seem to have finished the game yet, or at least, if there's such a secret ending or epilogue, I haven't seen any mention of it, only in Youtube some people are suggesting that there's an epilogue that can be unlocked.

Has anyone gotten a different ending? I didn't detonate the bomb, but from what I've seen gamers in Youtube doing, the choice doesn't really matter as the bomb won't activate.

[Invisigoth]

As for my theory, no matter everything I've read online, I still believe that Sally is just mad and schizophrenic, and that he just simply murdered everyone. The storyline never seemed realistic at all to me (and I've played many fantasy/weird games), the plot never made sense from a point of view of everything being actually real.

All his friendships were too idealized, he ''created'' a perfect group of friends with a perfect best friend, Larry, in his mind. All the continuous ''I'll be there for you Sal, I love you Sal'' etc seemed to me like way too perfect to be real. In my eyes, it's the friends he always wished having, who never at all passed judgement on him or even seemed scared of his appearance (given the fact that the kid had a damn prosthetic creepy face, not reacting at -all- or reacting outright ''Oh I love you!!' the first second, isn't very normal either...)

I thought, from the beginning, that everything being a product of Sally's disturbed mind was a fact, but everything I've read online are people actually elaborating theories of this and that... When all I think is that everything is a product of Sally's mind. He does move to the building with his father, I too believe that a dog destroyed his face, that hid father succumbed to alcoholism and that he became mad after that, but every reaction and impression on the neighborhoods and the consequent stories that derive from them are, in my opinion, the product of his mind...

[trashbaby]

I'm feeling the same way! It was way too short and a bit underwhelming... I'm really hoping there's something else to it.

[Venom Lion]

on the store page, if you enter the achievements, you can see the achievement "epilogue"

[Invisigoth]

I saw it a while ago, yes! Also, as of now, 0% of the players have achieved it... I hope someone will soon, record it and upload it to Youtube, because I know I wouldn't be able to unlock it even if my life depended on it lol

[English Phoenix]

So glad I'm not the only one left feeling disappointed...
I loved every other episode but this one

[lightfaith0606]

I'm hoping that there will be a sequel or "Epilogue" attachment. Because I too felt devastated and disappointed with the ending.

I was discussing with a best friend what we were upset with. We were okay with not ever knowing Sal's face as we kinda like the mystery behind it.. There are so many unanswered questions:

1. Why did Maple go feral?
2. is Travis alive?
3. Is Sal going to share Ash's body for now on?
4. Who were the other two people sacrificed among Maple and Neil?
5. Where did Larry go off to after the treehouse burned,?
6. If the souls of the Addison Apartments were saved thanks to Sal killing them, where are they?
7. Why was Todd's eyes still red even though he was supposedly saved?
8. Why did Chug and Soda have to die if as we saw in Chapter 4 as Larry, their souls were pure white and not corrupted? Wouldn't that have implied something more was going on?

I know others may have a plethora of more questions, but here are some major ones that bother me most. Especially not being able to ressurect Larry when Sal, Ash, and Todd were able to live.

I'm currently trying to unlock all the achievements, I've got DOG, Memorization, Secret from the Safe, Speaking with Jim, Finishing the Game... I only need 2 more achievements. I know one of them has to do with not getting hit /at all/ with the attacks. And this other unknown one I haven't seen anyone address yet. I'm assuming /maybe/ it's an achievement for getting all the other achievements from the previous chapters? Idk. I havent seen anyone else mention completing all the achievements on.

There was that Native American girl in the fourth world whose grandparents were of the Grey Tribe. Is she some sort of foreshadow to some new game for the series? Or was she and her dialogue placed just for the sake of lore and exposition?

But that's not to say Chapter 5 was awful. I loved the puzzles and art styles of each dimension. My sincerest and deepest respect and love for Steve for the work he put in, especially the stop motion aspects. I loved the combat. The ending had me frowning and exclaiming "That it!?!" otherwise though. It feels so shorthanded and incomplete. Even a roll of credits to show a "Where Are They Now?" closure would have been fine.
There definietely has to be something more in the game. I just don't know what and would appreciate anyone'sinput or help with the completion.

[Revolver Ocelot]

Цитата допису lightfaith0606:

I'm hoping that there will be a sequel or "Epilogue" attachment. Because I too felt devastated and disappointed with the ending.

I was discussing with a best friend what we were upset with. We were okay with not ever knowing Sal's face as we kinda like the mystery behind it.. There are so many unanswered questions:

1. Why did Maple go feral?
2. is Travis alive?
3. Is Sal going to share Ash's body for now on?
4. Who were the other two people sacrificed among Maple and Neil?
5. Where did Larry go off to after the treehouse burned,?
6. If the souls of the Addison Apartments were saved thanks to Sal killing them, where are they?
7. Why was Todd's eyes still red even though he was supposedly saved?
8. Why did Chug and Soda have to die if as we saw in Chapter 4 as Larry, their souls were pure white and not corrupted? Wouldn't that have implied something more was going on?

I know others may have a plethora of more questions, but here are some major ones that bother me most. Especially not being able to ressurect Larry when Sal, Ash, and Todd were able to live.

I'm currently trying to unlock all the achievements, I've got DOG, Memorization, Secret from the Safe, Speaking with Jim, Finishing the Game... I only need 2 more achievements. I know one of them has to do with not getting hit /at all/ with the attacks. And this other unknown one I haven't seen anyone address yet. I'm assuming /maybe/ it's an achievement for getting all the other achievements from the previous chapters? Idk. I havent seen anyone else mention completing all the achievements on.

There was that Native American girl in the fourth world whose grandparents were of the Grey Tribe. Is she some sort of foreshadow to some new game for the series? Or was she and her dialogue placed just for the sake of lore and exposition?

But that's not to say Chapter 5 was awful. I loved the puzzles and art styles of each dimension. My sincerest and deepest respect and love for Steve for the work he put in, especially the stop motion aspects. I loved the combat. The ending had me frowning and exclaiming "That it!?!" otherwise though. It feels so shorthanded and incomplete. Even a roll of credits to show a "Where Are They Now?" closure would have been fine.
There definietely has to be something more in the game. I just don't know what and would appreciate anyone'sinput or help with the completion.

I can answer two of these.
1 - the notes in Todd's house said that, basically, sometimes it be like that. I don't remember if those were the ones on the table in Neil's room or the ones on the couch in the basement.
8 - Everyone's souls are corrupted before you break those stones, and pure afterwards. You only reach Chug and Soda after breaking the 3rd floor stone, so their souls look clean. If you revisit other people after breaking the stones, you'll see their souls get cleansed too.

And btw, the final achievement is for unlocking the epilogue. The person who has it doesn't have all the achievements, though.

[trashbaby]

Цитата допису Venom Lion:

on the store page, if you enter the achievements, you can see the achievement "epilogue"

There's hope 👀

[Arthurio Nevermore ☥]

1. Because all people that lived in apartments got their souls corrupted. It doesn't matter, that Maple wasn't in the building on that moment of ritual. That's why Larry killed himself.
2. No, he went down in a hole, so he and Dogma are dead.
3. I think yes.
4. Clare Nettles and the lawyer.
5. He told it in episode 5, when you meet him.
6. Souls were saved, so they went to heaven or something like, but they couldn't stay in appartments as ghosts.
7. Don't know, but I think they eye vessels blowed up or he was permanently changed by Red Eyes demon, so red eyes are with him forever, as Ash blue hand and Sal voice inside head.
8. Previous commentary is 100% right.

[monsterdogboy]

Цитата допису lightfaith0606:

I'm hoping that there will be a sequel or "Epilogue" attachment. Because I too felt devastated and disappointed with the ending.

I was discussing with a best friend what we were upset with. We were okay with not ever knowing Sal's face as we kinda like the mystery behind it.. There are so many unanswered questions:

1. Why did Maple go feral?
2. is Travis alive?
3. Is Sal going to share Ash's body for now on?
4. Who were the other two people sacrificed among Maple and Neil?
5. Where did Larry go off to after the treehouse burned,?
6. If the souls of the Addison Apartments were saved thanks to Sal killing them, where are they?
7. Why was Todd's eyes still red even though he was supposedly saved?
8. Why did Chug and Soda have to die if as we saw in Chapter 4 as Larry, their souls were pure white and not corrupted? Wouldn't that have implied something more was going on?

I know others may have a plethora of more questions, but here are some major ones that bother me most. Especially not being able to ressurect Larry when Sal, Ash, and Todd were able to live.

I'm currently trying to unlock all the achievements, I've got DOG, Memorization, Secret from the Safe, Speaking with Jim, Finishing the Game... I only need 2 more achievements. I know one of them has to do with not getting hit /at all/ with the attacks. And this other unknown one I haven't seen anyone address yet. I'm assuming /maybe/ it's an achievement for getting all the other achievements from the previous chapters? Idk. I havent seen anyone else mention completing all the achievements on.

There was that Native American girl in the fourth world whose grandparents were of the Grey Tribe. Is she some sort of foreshadow to some new game for the series? Or was she and her dialogue placed just for the sake of lore and exposition?

But that's not to say Chapter 5 was awful. I loved the puzzles and art styles of each dimension. My sincerest and deepest respect and love for Steve for the work he put in, especially the stop motion aspects. I loved the combat. The ending had me frowning and exclaiming "That it!?!" otherwise though. It feels so shorthanded and incomplete. Even a roll of credits to show a "Where Are They Now?" closure would have been fine.
There definietely has to be something more in the game. I just don't know what and would appreciate anyone'sinput or help with the completion.

Ok so this is what i got
1. Maple did live in addison apartments but was out of town when sal killed everyone. so il gussing the apartments corruption finally got to her
2. Probably not. i think he sacrificed himself to kill his father in the pit
3. No idea but if so yeesh awkeard
4. I recognise one of them, the other boy, from the kids school. he was a background character who became a big fan favorite among the russian audience. no one really knows why everyone was obsessed with that guy. im gussing theyre just fan favorite background characters cause steve is a sadist.
5. He went to the void. the afterlife for the dead. but the treehouse served as some kind of waypoint for him to get back i believe. he kinda sucked at explaining
6. I'd like to think theyre in whatever this universes equivalent of "heaven" is. theyre free from the darkness. maybe theyre somewhere in the light room
7. No idea, would love someone elses take on this plz im so curious
8. I definitely think something else happened. i mean the kill order DID come from addison who we now know was conditioned literally since birth to be a host for the endless one. maybe no one had to die

thats my takes!

[Invisigoth]

Цитата допису trashbaby:

Цитата допису Venom Lion:

on the store page, if you enter the achievements, you can see the achievement "epilogue"

There's hope 👀

Yes!

I loved reading all these theories, which just proves how many questions we all still have. Maybe the Epilogue achievement only gets unlocked once someones has done 100% of them?

I'm also intrigued by the native Grey girl that appeared in episode 5. With the whole thing of Larry's father being an alien of some sort, I couldn't help myself but associate that family with aliens, as in ''the greys''.

[Zerafinos]

Цитата допису Invisigoth:

Цитата допису trashbaby:

There's hope 👀

Yes!

I loved reading all these theories, which just proves how many questions we all still have. Maybe the Epilogue achievement only gets unlocked once someones has done 100% of them?

I'm also intrigued by the native Grey girl that appeared in episode 5. With the whole thing of Larry's father being an alien of some sort, I couldn't help myself but associate that family with aliens, as in ''the greys''.

The one who get "Epilogue" achievement still didn't get 100% all achievements in the game though...

[Cooyle]

maybe you get the epilogue when you get 100 % in all chapters.

[Invisigoth]

As of now, in the Store Page it still shows that 0% of players have achieved the Epilogue achievement... I guess we'll have to wait some days at least, till some random Chosen One unblocks it.

[Zerafinos]

Everyone please look at this guy's achievements ,he/she already unlocked "Epilogue" achievement, even his achievement in Sally Face is not 100% in every episode though. (Dunno if attach the link of someone's achievement like this is against the rule or not...) https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198337867299/stats/541570/achievements/