Is Rean just a worse version of Lloyd?

[Halabaloo]

What the title says. It looks like the writers made a much worse version of Lloyd and then made 4 game with his insufferable personality. Is this what I should be expecting?

[Dr. Rudolf von Richten]

Rean has some similarities to Lloyd, but he has his own personality, with different strengths and weaknesses. He also has a lot of growth throughout the arc. As for whether he's better, worse or just different than Lloyd, you'll have to determine for yourself.

Personally, I like him more than Lloyd, but I like Estelle and Kevin a lot more than either. How much time you want to give him, and how much you can deal with a not-that-great main character for the sake of the story and the other characters is up to you.

[Halabaloo]

What game is Kevin in? Aside from the sibling fetish, which the series goes out of its way to include in every game, Estelle is seemingly the best MC they have written. Seems like a really stupid decision to make a 4 game series with the weakest of the three MC's at that point.

[Dr. Rudolf von Richten]

Kevin is introduced in Sky SC, he's the Priest with the spikey green hair. In Sky the 3rd, he's the main character.

[Halabaloo]

OH YEAH!!!! Kevin is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ BEST!

[Exarch_Alpha]

I like Rean. If "teenagers save the world" is not your cup of tea you are better off not playing JRPGs at all, honestly. And like, not watching 95% of anime. Ageism is a real issue on japanese stuff. Where are the 40-50 year old veterans that didn´t lose a part of their bodies?

Lloyd is less of a Mary sue because overall the enemies he fights are weaker than Rean´s and Zero is more simple than TOCS (talking about only Zero here as Azure is not out yet).

[Halabaloo]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

I like Rean. If "teenagers save the world" is not your cup of tea you are better off not playing JRPGs at all, honestly. And like, not watching 95% of anime

You need to dial it back. I have no problem with a characters age if effort is put into making them into an actual character with growth, something that was done with the previous 3 leads, though Trails the Third is a joke and Kevin deserves far better.

quote=Exarch_Alpha;5430811797232864069] as Azure is not out yet [/quote]
Azure in english has been around for a bit now, just not on Steam.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by Halabaloo:

You need to dial it back. I have no problem with a characters age if effort is put into making them into an actual character with growth, something that was done with the previous 3 leads, though Trails the Third is a joke and Kevin deserves far better.

quote=Exarch_Alpha;5430811797232864069] as Azure is not out yet

Azure in english has been around for a bit now, just not on Steam. [/quote]

We will have to agree to disagree.

Also aware of azure geofront, Talking about oficial release here which means I´m waiting.

[Oguzhan]

Originally posted by Halabaloo:

What the title says. It looks like the writers made a much worse version of Lloyd and then made 4 game with his insufferable personality. Is this what I should be expecting?

Yeah, he is pretty much a worse Loyd. Both of them are nice to a T, both of them get all the girls without doing anything, both of them are about the whole friendship bs etc...

Where Loyd differs from Rean, however; is that he actually feels genuine. I won't defend his harem bs, that is almost as bad as Rean's with only saving grace being that there aren't too many waifu scenes in Zero. However, Loyd's cast is MUCH smaller, meaning the characters get more time under the spotlight and you don't just rely on the bonding events for character build up. When we learn about Tio's past, the entire cast is there to reflect on it, unlike in CS where, most of the time, it is just Rean who is present to hear it.

[[ENFJ] Carnifex]

Definitely a boy scout for sure and kinda dense but wouldn't say he's a bad character or poorly written far as anime protags go, i'd rather have a boy scout trying to actually be a decent guy and find his way in life than some beta cuck like shinji from Evangelion or something but that's just me.
also to the above comment lmao if you're bothered with harem type stuff and the power of friendship what are you even doing playing an anime game? that stuff comes with the territory lol.
Also I feel like the reason for the harem thing is like they didnt want you to be forced into some dumb relationship with someone like Elise who is like the worst char ever by far imo. you gotta make some sacrifices when you give people options like that, take mass effect for example.

[Ogami]

Dont make the mistake to think Rean is unpopular. He is not. He is disliked in the WEST but in Japan and Asia he is the most beloved Trails protagonist by far.

This is mainly a difference between how Japanese and western fans see their heroes.
Rean has won the yearly Falcom poll for "Best Trails Character" the last 8 years in a row.
And came second on the "All Time Falcom Character" poll, just behind Adol from Ys.
That is not a coincidence. Rean is pretty much the perfect protagonist for what the Asian audience likes.
Asia LOVES their boyscout heroes with selfdoubt.

The Trails director is even on record stating that for him Rean is the perfect Trails protagonist and the heart of the entire franchise.

[Halabaloo]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Dont make the mistake to think Rean is unpopular. He is not. He is disliked in the WEST but in Japan and Asia he is the most beloved Trails protagonist by far.

This is mainly a difference between how Japanese and western fans see their heroes.
Rean has won the yearly Falcom poll for "Best Trails Character" the last 8 years in a row.
And came second on the "All Time Falcom Character" poll, just behind Adol from Ys.
That is not a coincidence. Rean is pretty much the perfect protagonist for what the Asian audience likes.
Asia LOVES their boyscout heroes with selfdoubt.

The Trails director is even on record stating that for him Rean is the perfect Trails protagonist and the heart of the entire franchise.

I don't have an issue with boy-scout protagonists, but they portray him as so unbelievably stupid that you start to question his sentience.

Everything you wrote makes me question the fans of this series. There are so many other characters that are actually interesting and grow, but the plank of wood is the most popular????