It’s all your fault Rean! Sigh…

[Sillls]

It’s all your fault Rean! Sigh…

Am I the only one that is annoyed by the main character constantly being belittled by everybody?

It’s your fault that your little sister ran off into the training area and got that thing to attack her!
Don’t mind us listening into your conversation Rean but how dare you try to protect your family!
How dare you Rean try to save others! –slap!
Yeah Rean the way you showed affection to your sister was really cruel to!

Rean: Sorry guys.

On and on….

It’s the one thing I hate about the game. I try to skip past those parts when I can.

[EdgarAllenSwole]

And he's such a boring husk of a character that he never fights back. The Sky MC always had a sassy comeback chambered for those situations.

[Sillls]

Ha. Pathetic is more of the word for it.

Rean: permission to grovel before you all.

I wish that the guy would at least stand up for himself. He put himself on the line and works a whole lot harder than anyone else in the group to make this happen. Even his instructor sees that and uses that to help the others. Why the students don't see that I don't know.

Maybe I just need to play it through but it seems lime they could have written a better story line.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

That's the whole point of his character arc.

[Oostin]

That's why Estelle > Rean

[Sillls]

Originally posted by Oostin:

That's why Estelle > Rean

What do you mean?

[Sillls]

Originally posted by Val the Moofia Boss:

That's the whole point of his character arc.

So your saying that he changes? Ok, thanks.

[Stabbey]

I agree that it wasn't all Rean's fault, Elise is really, really stupid to not know where she is while standing beside the main building - the ONLY big building, and really stupid to run off and explore strange areas in a world where man-eating monsters are everywhere outside of towns.

BUT, Rean is not always right and perfect. Rean's so eager to help anyone else in trouble at the risk of physical injury to himself that he has a blind spot and doesn't consider how his actions could affect others.

Rean was being insensitive and selfish. He basically told Elise, right to her face, that he was just going to walk away from the family which took him, raised him, endured the scorn of society for his sake. He was going to make all that they had gone through for nothing, walking away like they didn't matter. He absolutely deserved to be chewed out for that.

Didn't you notice that when talking to the mandatory people searching for Elise that despite not being there to overhear the argument, they still point out to Rean that maybe his own thought process is wrong, and Rean doesn't have a counter argument to that?

To emphasise that, there's a later scene where Rean - acknowledging that he was wrong to act like that on the roof - thanks Alisa for telling him off.

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Believe me, the series spends way more time going "Wow, Rean is so amazing and just the best, he's the only one whose opinion matters, yay Rean", and that's far worse than the few times he gets called out on stuff he doesn't think others notice about him.

[Sillls]

Rean gave his reasons while talking to his step sister. The stuff Rean heard while growing up, The way others treated there dad. Calling his father unfaithful and Rean a B------d child. His father took a lot of crap for his good deed. His whole family did.

Rean didn't want that for his family. He was treated so well and the last thing he wanted was for those same people to be be treated badly. For all the good things they did for him, So that's why he wanted to leave.

OFC I don't really think that Rean thought that through as to how his step family would feel about him leaving.

I see both sides of the problem and that's important if one is going to solve them.

That's why I don't like the story line. Nobody can see both sides of anything only there side. They don't take the time to walk in his shoes and vice versa.

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by Sillls:

Rean gave his reasons while talking to his step sister. The stuff Rean heard while growing up, The way others treated there dad. Calling his father unfaithful and Rean a B------d child. His father took a lot of crap for his good deed. His whole family did.

Rean didn't want that for his family. He was treated so well and the last thing he wanted was for those same people to be be treated badly. For all the good things they did for him, So that's why he wanted to leave.

Those things which happened to the Schwarzers already happened. That was the past. Rean leaving home now, in the present, and turning his back on the Schwarzers cannot change the past and the things which happened there.

Rean leaving cannot erase the events which caused the Schwarzers pain. All Rean leaving can do is cause the Schwarzers more pain - as they watch the one they endured all the crap they got for taking him in turn his back and walk away.

Unless you have a good argument how Rean walking away from the family which loves him will somehow not hurt them, then Rean is simply in the wrong here.

[Sillls]

I do. The fact that this happened in the past won't change the present. Do you think that suddenly people are going to stop harassing them and be nice? No they won't. Why would they.

In his mind by leaving,the pain stops.

Why don't people try to see both sides of the problem?

[[Z.E.] Gri-49]

This is why I actually like this scene. Both Rean and Elise point of view are easy to understand, whether you agree to them is another matter. Yes, you could said they are stupid for not considering the others opinion, but remember, that was the FIRST time they seriously talk about Rean leaving the familly. Of course Elise will be upset and try to prevent her brother from vanishing, and of course Rean, whom already made up it's mind for a while, will try to resist it, espicially from a familly member.

And let's not forget that both Rean and Elise are still immature teens with little experience in life, so you can't expect them to make the "right" choice right away. Even for grown person it can be hard at times.

And yeah, Rean has no confidence in himself for the longest time, so if that bothers you you're in for a tough ride.

PS: I totally hate Elise as a character (for many reasons), and I think this could be her only relevant scene in both CS1 and CS2.

[Stabbey]

Originally posted by Sillls:

I do. The fact that this happened in the past won't change the present. Do you think that suddenly people are going to stop harassing them and be nice? No they won't. Why would they.

In his mind by leaving,the pain stops.

Why don't people try to see both sides of the problem?

Because Rean's mind is wrong.

In Rean's mind, Rean thinks that the Schwarzers would be better off without the pain him being around brings. That is because Rean's mind is a little bit warped: Rean suffers from some pretty severe self-worth issues. He doesn't really believe he belongs anywhere, he doesn't believe he deserves happiness. Rean sees the path to worth is through selflessly helping others, without seeking happiness for himself.

Because of those issues, Rean does not understand that the Schwarzers love Rean in *spite* of the pain. Rean doesn't see himself as having worth, so he doesn't understand that his presence has given the Schwarzers happiness whose worth they consider to far outweigh whatever pain it brings. Rean sees only the negatives, not the positives, and so his perspective is incomplete; flawed. Rean's mind is wrong.

[Sillls]

I see your points. What I was not getting was that everybody in the group are young inexperienced teens who are still growing up.

I am also getting to see bits and pieces of Rean's past. Suggesting that he is a bit confused and messed up due to alot of crap happening in his past and one big thing for sure. I don't know what.

I guess I didn't understand that. Thanks.

[Stabbey]

Well in fairness, you're only about halfway through the first game, and a lot of how Rean sees himself only becomes clear later on.

Before this point, Rean seems pretty normal and well-adjusted. But even then the game hints at it a little. Sara calls Rean after picking up the student notebooks and suggests that Rean find something to connect with to root himself down, or else he'll be blown away in the next big metaphorical gust of wind. In Chapter 2, Jusis tells Rean that his willingness to lay his body on the line to protect a complete stranger could be seen as unnatural, almost twisted. In Chapter 3, Rean says that Ymir is too nice a town for a person like himself, and that he gets along with his family, the real problem is himself.

[Dragon]

Originally posted by Oostin:

That's why Estelle > Rean

But Josh is much worse than Rean and Josh drags down almost 100% of the experience of the game in Trails in the Sky FC and also a whole lot of Trails in the Sky SC as well.