The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel

The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel

frubam Sep 3, 2017 @ 9:09am
Just how strong is Yun Ka-fai?
Heard in some other game he was nearly 70 years old. Is there any other mention about his abilities/skills in any other games?
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何かしら… Sep 3, 2017 @ 10:33am 
We don't know much about him, he had trained Cassius so we can assure he is pretty strong. He is from Calvard Republic, so logically speaking we should be getting another game series after Cold Steel that might have him finally appear and have a bigger role there, but for now we can only speculate based on his students' skills.
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thenirks Sep 3, 2017 @ 11:59am 
Was it confirmed he is from Calvard? Always thought its only mentioned he comes from the eastern lands even beyond Calvard, but I might be mistaken. (Is there even anything east of Calvard? If yes, is it still Zemuria?)

And in terms of strength, it is speculated that he should be roughly on the same level as Viktor S. Arseid. Which is pretty darn strong at least. (Have to be careful with power levels in Trails ... can get messy fast.)
autoraso Sep 3, 2017 @ 12:21pm 
The areas to the east of Leman state, Arteria City and Ored state are known as 'unconverted east' Ka-fai is from there.
Equilibrium Sep 3, 2017 @ 12:23pm 
How strong? Insanely strong. He is mentor of cassius bright the only(if there's not any) S-rank bracer. And cassius himself is superhuman himself to get even with loewe(leondhart) whose the only enforcer of ouroboros who can match the power of the anguish. Noted that loewe sword is created with the power of the grandmaster and cassius still able to handle him.
So how strong is yun ka fai? As strong as the grandmaster i think.
Kyle G Sep 3, 2017 @ 12:27pm 
In his youth probably just as strong as Cassius and Victor.
Cold_Reverie Sep 3, 2017 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Lumina:
How strong? Insanely strong. He is mentor of cassius bright the only(if there's not any) S-rank bracer. And cassius himself is superhuman himself to get even with loewe(leondhart) whose the only enforcer of ouroboros who can match the power of the anguish. Noted that loewe sword is created with the power of the grandmaster and cassius still able to handle him.
So how strong is yun ka fai? As strong as the grandmaster i think.

You got a couple of things mixed up here. If you don't mind me clearing them up:

There are 4 S-rank Bracers and there is another A-rank Bracer that is close to S-rank. Cassius isn't the only one.

Loewe isn't the only Enforcer who can match the power of an Anguis.

(Sky SC spoilers) Loewe's demon sword Kernviter was forged through the Divergent Laws. It was only stated that the Grandmaster had granted it to Loewe. We do not know enough about the Divergent Laws to know if it comes from the Grandmaster.

(More Sky SC spoilers) Cassius wouldn't win against Loewe if they had fought each other in SC. If Cassius hadn't given up the way of the sword, then he would be able to beat Loewe. You also have to remember that Loewe likes to hold back. If Kernviter can cut through the Aureole's absolute barrier, I doubt Cassius, even in his prime, would be able to defend against it.

We also don't know if the Grandmaster can even fight at all, so I don't know if that's a suitable comparison for Yun Ka-fai. The only person we know of who is comparable to Yun Ka-fai is Viscount Victor S. Arseid, although I do think Yun Ka-fai is stronger.

I agree that Yun Ka-fai must be pretty strong, maybe he is even the strongest character in the series, but we simply don't know enough about him yet to say for sure, I don't think.
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Oguzhan Sep 3, 2017 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by Cold_Steel:
Originally posted by Lumina:
How strong? Insanely strong. He is mentor of cassius bright the only(if there's not any) S-rank bracer. And cassius himself is superhuman himself to get even with loewe(leondhart) whose the only enforcer of ouroboros who can match the power of the anguish. Noted that loewe sword is created with the power of the grandmaster and cassius still able to handle him.
So how strong is yun ka fai? As strong as the grandmaster i think.

You got a couple of things mixed up here. If you don't mind me clearing them up:

There are 4 S-rank Bracers and there is another A-rank Bracer that is close to S-rank. Cassius isn't the only one.

Loewe isn't the only Enforcer who can match the power of an Anguis.

(Sky SC spoilers) Loewe's demon sword Kernviter was forged through the Divergent Laws. It was only stated that the Grandmaster had granted it to Loewe. We do not know enough about the Divergent Laws to know if it comes from the Grandmaster.

(More Sky SC spoilers) Cassius wouldn't win against Loewe if they had fought each other in SC. If Cassius hadn't given up the way of the sword, then he would be able to beat Loewe. You also have to remember that Loewe likes to hold back. If Kernviter can cut through the Aureole's absolute barrier, I doubt Cassius, even in his prime, would be able to defend against it.

We also don't know if the Grandmaster can even fight at all, so I don't know if that's a suitable comparison for Yun Ka-fai. The only person we know of who is comparable to Yun Ka-fai is Viscount Victor S. Arseid, although I do think Yun Ka-fai is stronger.

I agree that Yun Ka-fai must be pretty strong, maybe he is even the strongest character in the series, but we simply don't know enough about him yet to say for sure, I don't think.

I dont know who would win if Loewe and Cassius had fought but one thing I am sure of is that Grandmaster should be really strong. She took aurorole without any planning or any backlashes (unlike weisman who lost control a bit after a while).

Also while I havent seen the character myself yet , I hear that there is a certain character in Cold Steel 2 who is one of the strongest person in the entire ouroboros society. But like I said I haven't seen the character in action yet so all I know about him is his name and he has the same power that Rean has , which kinda reminds me of Akuma and Ryu from street fighter. One side is trying to not get consumed by it while also trying to get use out it while the other just embraces it at least that is the impression that I got.
Cold_Reverie Sep 3, 2017 @ 2:37pm 
I know the OP asked if there was info in the other games regarding the strength of Yun Ka-fai, but I think we should try to mark Trails in the Sky spoilers. Yun Ka-fai is mentioned in the Cold Steel games, so I think there is a high chance someone who has only played Cold Steel will read this thread and might not want to see end-game spoilers for Second Chapter.

Originally posted by oguz.gungor96:
Also while I havent seen the character myself yet , I hear that there is a certain character in Cold Steel 2 who is one of the strongest person in the entire ouroboros society.

Yeah, that character was the one I was referencing.

Originally posted by oguz.gungor96:
I dont know who would win if Loewe and Cassius had fought but one thing I am sure of is that Grandmaster should be really strong. She took aurorole without any planning or any backlashes (unlike weisman who lost control a bit after a while).

(Sky Trilogy spoilers) If a certain popular Grandmaster theory is correct, then that might explain why she was able to receive the Aureole without any problems.

Once you beat CSII (or at least reach the beginning of Act II in CSII), you can read the second Drama CD on the CSII website. In that Drama CD there is something mentioned that I personally find very interesting. It's something that makes me think that, even if that particular theory turns out to be true, the Grandmaster could still be a powerful fighter anyway.

It's not a major spoiler, but if you would rather wait to read it for yourself, then don't read the next spoiler. If you don't mind some minor spoilers or have already read the second Drama CD: (Spoilers for CSII Drama CD) A little girl was writing a fantasy book (and we all know how important the books in Trails turn out) about some flower spirits and the goddess. She says she feels the goddess would want to fight alongside the flower spirits if they worked together like how Rean and co. do.

The exact quote is: "Tilia: 'Watching you all work together to help everyone made me wish I had friends just like you guys. It made me think about how if the goddess watched the spirits doing the same thing for long enough, she'd eventually want to fight by their side, too.'"

From the first moment I read that, I felt like it was forshadowing. So I think we may see some kind of 'Divine Intervention' at some point. Although this is just a small theory of mine, it could very well back up the notion that the Grandmaster should be really strong.
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Equilibrium Sep 3, 2017 @ 3:49pm 
From what i read grandmaster is only make his appearance in 3rd and AO. I don't know if he is included in any battle or more scene since im not yet to played AO.
And for the person you guys talking about is "blazing demon" McBurn. he is no.1 enforcer and yes, he take interest in rean because he possess the demon power inside just like himself. McBurn is also have a sword from grandmaster power called angbart. It's to be said that his raw power is rival to arianhord the "steel maiden" of ouroboros and his swordmanship is rival to loewe
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Cold_Reverie Sep 3, 2017 @ 3:55pm 
Can you mark that as Cold Steel 2 spoilers, please? A lot of people here on Steam have only played Cold Steel 1. If you don't know how, put: [ s p o i l e r ] your text here [ / s p o i l e r ] just without the spaces. There's kinda a lot of spoilers about McBurn in your post that some people who have only played Cold Steel 1 might want to be suprised about. It's better to just be safe regarding spoilers, y'know. :)
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frubam Sep 3, 2017 @ 7:31pm 
Yes, I would ask this as well.... wouldn't want to spoil elements of the next game for myself, but I was just too curious after hearing this man's name again.
Equilibrium Sep 3, 2017 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Cold_Steel:
Can you mark that as Cold Steel 2 spoilers, please? A lot of people here on Steam have only played Cold Steel 1. If you don't know how, put: [ s p o i l e r ] your text here [ / s p o i l e r ] just without the spaces. There's kinda a lot of spoilers about McBurn in your post that some people who have only played Cold Steel 1 might want to be suprised about. It's better to just be safe regarding spoilers, y'know. :)

Duh, silly me. I got too excited when u guys talked about that man and forget to cover up that line. I guess i let my guard down for this man. Thanks for noticing me dude. Have to be more careful next time, i guess. Haha
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Cold_Reverie Sep 3, 2017 @ 10:36pm 
No worries! :)
I, too, really like that character.
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