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Which is the Best Deck Buff to Use?
Hi All Tamers

I have collected a lot of digimon and I have every deck buff except for "Knights of Vaccine" & "Mega - Omega".
Which Deck buff is the best one to use in current dmo?

Advise will be well appreciated.
Thank all :Ken:
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İlk olarak DieBoetNinja tarafından gönderildi:
Looks like my topic has become a place for people to air there anger against certain players. :) :)
they are groups against me because they cant accept it , they not make the game but when they say something it have to be supreme and everybody follows his rules making the game hard but is really easy all explanation they give about 300 % critical what the deck buff % number as number AOX ULFORCE ETC etc is the same number of Money you have to spend in the game or the years you need to play it
En son adri tarafından düzenlendi; 10 Ara 2019 @ 6:25
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Looks like my topic has become a place for people to air there anger against certain players. :) :)
they are groups against me because they cant accept it , they not make the game but when they say something it have to be supreme and everybody follows his rules making the game hard but is really easy all explanation they give about 300 % critical what the deck buff % number as number AOX ULFORCE ETC etc is the same number of Money you have to spend in the game or the years you need to play it

No one is against you. We are just presenting facts.

If you feel that presenting facts is "against you", it says a lot about your position.
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Beelzemon BM
1 AS (And lower) digimon can't make use of 45% AS reduction, going from 38% to 45% reduction there's next to no difference in dps (8% Deck buff+30% from necklace will give you pretty much the same results as 15% Deck buff+30% from necklace on base 1 AS digimon, the cutoff seems to be somewhere around 0.62 or so AS, if you go from 0.66 (1.2 Base with 45% AS reduction) to 0.62 (1 base with 38% reduction) there's a large difference in dps, but going from 0.62 to 0.55 (1 base with 45% reduction) they're nearly identical).

Yes, but remember that the AS deck will work for any digimon, so is better have the 15% deck for those digimon whose AS base is higher. It isn't matter of just think on Beelzemon, we have to think on any digimon we might use.
En son Patitasmon tarafından düzenlendi; 10 Ara 2019 @ 14:21
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they are groups against me because they cant accept it , they not make the game but when they say something it have to be supreme and everybody follows his rules making the game hard but is really easy all explanation they give about 300 % critical what the deck buff % number as number AOX ULFORCE ETC etc is the same number of Money you have to spend in the game or the years you need to play it

No one is against you. We are just presenting facts.

If you feel that presenting facts is "against you", it says a lot about your position.
Facts? what facts that just inventions of the mob masses of people , you just use like pretext to bully me because my opinion this not first time that somebody like you say me that you position? using smart words to insult me

here is the proof you against me in you previous comment you say : (Ignore him. That guy posts things constantly that border on frantic / lunacy.) and already report you because you intentions is to make a liar without knowledge of the game of me to only feel yourself good i dont know what is in you head if you have some kind of agreement with ( Tpf ) or (patitasmon ) , the same guys who bully me in discord and facebook groups , i dont know you or who are you , i dont have nothing against you but you join they like a angry mob against me and i cant stand see how you give the right to they and mock me to say iam wrong because iam not iam not a liar is my word against all you and the world and if you want to be like that i accept it but always in the end i will have the right
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Facts? what facts that just inventions of the mob masses of people , you just use like pretext to bully me because my opinion this not first time that somebody like you say me that you position? using smart words to insult me

here is the proof you against me in you previous comment you say : (Ignore him. That guy posts things constantly that border on frantic / lunacy.) and already report you because you intentions is to make a liar without knowledge of the game of me to only feel yourself good i dont know what is in you head if you have some kind of agreement with ( Tpf ) or (patitasmon ) , the same guys who bully me in discord and facebook groups , i dont know you or who are you , i dont have nothing against you but you join they like a angry mob against me and i cant stand see how you give the right to they and mock me to say iam wrong because iam not iam not a liar is my word against all you and the world and if you want to be like that i accept it but always in the end i will have the right

Hey no. I never saw you on Discord since I barely go to the official GDMO server. actually its been a long time since the last time I wrote a message there.

As for facebook true, we had disagreements, but that was a good while ago since you aren't on any of the groups I am on currently.

I don't have any agreements with Vercingetorix nor anyone. I play the game and enjoy it my way, with my guildmates and that's all.

On my thread about the difficulty level of Odaiba dungeons I replied to you quite politely. Just stating my point of view without insulting at all.

Same with this thread. I only stated my own opinion. The only time on this thread where I quoted you was to clear up that UlforceVeedramon X stopped being that strong since his x2 buff event finished, but didn't said anything offensive.
En son Patitasmon tarafından düzenlendi; 11 Ara 2019 @ 3:17
yeah but you always have the same acctitude about always look you complain about the game but still playing it and it say you cant play it because game is broken and you need money to win just because you knowledge about the game is not enough then you see me and start to bother me i block you because you nasty and do a horrible thing to me but always read character blocked message
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No one is against you. We are just presenting facts.

If you feel that presenting facts is "against you", it says a lot about your position.
Facts? what facts that just inventions of the mob masses of people , you just use like pretext to bully me because my opinion this not first time that somebody like you say me that you position? using smart words to insult me

here is the proof you against me in you previous comment you say : (Ignore him. That guy posts things constantly that border on frantic / lunacy.) and already report you because you intentions is to make a liar without knowledge of the game of me to only feel yourself good i dont know what is in you head if you have some kind of agreement with ( Tpf ) or (patitasmon ) , the same guys who bully me in discord and facebook groups , i dont know you or who are you , i dont have nothing against you but you join they like a angry mob against me and i cant stand see how you give the right to they and mock me to say iam wrong because iam not iam not a liar is my word against all you and the world and if you want to be like that i accept it but always in the end i will have the right

Correcting you is not bullying you. Warning players who are new, or players who are asking questions about your misinformation is not bullying you. If you'd prefer that I not tell players to ignore your advice, stop giving them bad advice. Attack Speed is, in general the strongest Deck Buff (there are a few exceptions, but your contest that it was not strong at all is absurd). Advanced Skill Breaking is not only well known, but easily provable. Etc.

If you truly think flat damage buffs are better than attack speed buffs, I'll offer you a simple equation.

Lets say you have a digimon that has a 2.00 Attack Speed with 10,000 Attack. Is it better to add 15% more attacks per second, or a few hundred damage? The simple answer is, that with attack values that high, getting those attacks in more will almost always accumulate more damage faster than adding another small modifier to the larger value. When two numbers are multiplicative, increasing the smaller value raises the resulting value by more than increasing the already-larger value.
iam always right is not bad information yes you are bully me like the others because you not like to be wrong
previous years ago i say Skill are better than normal attack , all groups and "discord" mocking me that iam noob that belzeemon AS deck buff 15% dps bla bla
AND GUESS WHAT?
now update attack total get summed to skill damage , skill level max is 25 extreme evolution buff family buff etc my apocalymon a single F2 = 200.000 damage
so i use Deck Buff Omega 15% permanent effect enabled in a digimon apocalymon woodmon the most weak digimon all say that ,
i surpass my limits and all nonsese about belzeemon power DPS etc my digimon survive raid and can do multiple things
I dont things like 13131313131 f1 f2 asb lies that is fake information i dont break my fingers and my apocaly always same damage
I dont have perfect accesories attack attack critical damage attack hit rate ETC PERFECT ACCESORIES not exist is not the same effect in diferent digimons ONLY for belzeemon and yet that stats are bad because lack of Healt points

i was have that stats in my accesories but i realize it was useless and limiting my power so i grab Ocs and say bye bye perfect bracelet and perfect earring and now i have more hp like 34 k and alot of attribute for UKNOWN apocaly that is perfect to all situations

ressuming later i will make a guide because best digimon to use in game to start is UKnown
apocalymon and armaggemon normal people need learn to use 1 only digimon while they start
even the armadillomon master attribute Npc from silver lake say if you get a UK digimon it will be a huge boom to you adventure

And deck buff help you alot each deck buff is diferent there is not better than others each one have diferent stats and chance for activation % sometimes you not always attacking and sometimes you using more skill than attack , the only good of 15% as is for farming because it look so slow when digimon than more 2 speed atacks
then for raid i recommend HP and skill apocaly have 70% chance of make more attack damage but sussano have less chance
and talking about Deck fusion to evolve into higher , that buff is broken . it now working correctly it show the animattion of cooldown reseting but say skill cant use now and is useless in goatmon cooldown of 4 seconds is nothing , you need to use it in a digimon with 8 seconds or 12 to more seconds iam tired of reporting because they never fixed it
but i think that is best deck buff because reseting skill with cooldown 12 seconds that my apocalymon deal 200k damage and spamming all time will be really good or Omega X 10 minute of cooldown all delete 100k base damage 600 k max that will end game


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now update attack total get summed to skill damage , skill level max is 25 extreme evolution buff family buff etc my apocalymon a single F2 = 200.000 damage
You didn't mention which Apocalymon (I noticed after it said 12 second cooldown for F2, so probably safe to woodmon line Apocalymon since you're also using EE buff), assuming Betamon line I can only manage ~100k per F2 with 1 SK and 3 Att options with 13.3k AT, SK buff, and EE, even if it was Woodmon line Apocalymon it's F2 isn't any stronger, if anything it's weaker because of the much longer cooldown while the skill isn't twice as strong because of the added damage the skill receives from AT (Skill buff doesn't increase the added damage that AT increases); I after typing everything out you were likely using woodmon line apocalymon, anyways its F2 has a 12 second cooldown, less than damage the damage for double the cooldown.

İlk olarak Adri tarafından gönderildi:
I dont things like 13131313131 f1 f2 asb lies that is fake information i dont break my fingers and my apocaly always same damage
Then you're doing something wrong, spamming attack+standby almost always increases your dps, unless of course you're using a digimon with around 0.6 or lower AS (After reduction), refer to the video a bit below where I demonstrate not spamming attack+standby decreases my dps by a lot (~83k dps->~54% dps), I've even proved you wrong not so long ago with alter-s with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ULGQR2N6A

İlk olarak Adri tarafından gönderildi:
i was have that stats in my accesories but i realize it was useless and limiting my power so i grab Ocs and say bye bye perfect bracelet and perfect earring and now i have more hp like 34 k and alot of attribute for UKNOWN apocaly that is perfect to all situations
Attribute options barely add damage, if you drop AT/AS/CD in favor of Att you'd be losing a noticeable amount of damage, the reason for this is Att options don't increase the total damage (for normal hits), but original damage, by this I mean any damage from CD options on accessories won't be increased from Att options, the formula is something along the lines of: ((attack damage+critical damage)*Attribute from accessories)+critical damage from accessories+critical damage from buffs, anyways here's the numbers I noted down from how much my Apocalymon did Antylamon in QDG Easy:
Attack
74980-89359
+34% Att
76299-92974
1.7% on the low side, 4% on the high side

79671-88998
+34% Att
85457-95963
7.2 gained on the low side and 7.8% on the high side.

From the skill side you're looking at around just over 1k increase in dps, as for normal hits you're probably looking at around the same amount, so probably around a 2k or so dps increase, that's barely noticeable, keep in mind dropping AT, CD, or AS is going to be very noticeable, if I lost 400 AT from necklace it would be roughly a 3% decrease in damage from normal hits (13300/12900=1.031), dropping AS option would easily be 15%+ DPS decrease (Testing it my dps went from ~83k to ~71k), dropping a CD option would probably be not as noticeable as dropping AS, but would definitely be quite noticeable, I'd test it but my 1 hour buffs ran out before I had the chance.

Video of testing dps difference of 15% AS vs 12% Skill deck buff vs 15% AS w/o spamming attack+standby (Needless to say 15% AS deck buff easily beat the other two, ~83k vs ~70k vs ~54k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32v7u9kqEbI

Anyways, please stop spreading incorrect information (ASBing, deck buffs, attribute usefulness, etc.), you're going to make newer players think x is better than y despite there being evidence that y is clearly better.

TPF iam tired of you and your minions supporting you and you have absolute right and against me saying i spreading incorrect information
just Who you think you are?? this is not discord you not the admin here i say whatever i want to say and give my oppinion this is a free world and forum is not yours what you going to cry to yours friends GM to punish me like always? you just cheating they and all people with you fancy words
i just ignore you and report you comment that clearly want to start a fight against me along with you friends i hope that the GM or the admin of the steam is not blind

Something more to add you not are Developer of this game you cant just to have the absolute right about everything and too because you pro YOU cant judge me iam not evil person to give incorrect information i play all days i tested every digimon skills etc to know what i say and to proof that people like you are completely wrong
The Incorrect information is all you and all people keep spreading About ASB DPS belzeemon perfect accesories that is waste of money and resources JUST LOOK THIS GAME is DEAD look new players all quit only for that reason because they dont know how to play and believe is pay to win
En son adri tarafından düzenlendi; 11 Ara 2019 @ 23:43
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İlk olarak tpf tarafından gönderildi:
You didn't mention which Apocalymon (I noticed after it said 12 second cooldown for F2, so probably safe to woodmon line Apocalymon since you're also using EE buff), assuming Betamon line I can only manage ~100k per F2 with 1 SK and 3 Att options with 13.3k AT, SK buff, and EE, even if it was Woodmon line Apocalymon it's F2 isn't any stronger, if anything it's weaker because of the much longer cooldown while the skill isn't twice as strong because of the added damage the skill receives from AT (Skill buff doesn't increase the added damage that AT increases); I after typing everything out you were likely using woodmon line apocalymon, anyways its F2 has a 12 second cooldown, less than damage the damage for double the cooldown.


Then you're doing something wrong, spamming attack+standby almost always increases your dps, unless of course you're using a digimon with around 0.6 or lower AS (After reduction), refer to the video a bit below where I demonstrate not spamming attack+standby decreases my dps by a lot (~83k dps->~54% dps), I've even proved you wrong not so long ago with alter-s with this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ULGQR2N6A


Attribute options barely add damage, if you drop AT/AS/CD in favor of Att you'd be losing a noticeable amount of damage, the reason for this is Att options don't increase the total damage (for normal hits), but original damage, by this I mean any damage from CD options on accessories won't be increased from Att options, the formula is something along the lines of: ((attack damage+critical damage)*Attribute from accessories)+critical damage from accessories+critical damage from buffs, anyways here's the numbers I noted down from how much my Apocalymon did Antylamon in QDG Easy:
Attack
74980-89359
+34% Att
76299-92974
1.7% on the low side, 4% on the high side

79671-88998
+34% Att
85457-95963
7.2 gained on the low side and 7.8% on the high side.

From the skill side you're looking at around just over 1k increase in dps, as for normal hits you're probably looking at around the same amount, so probably around a 2k or so dps increase, that's barely noticeable, keep in mind dropping AT, CD, or AS is going to be very noticeable, if I lost 400 AT from necklace it would be roughly a 3% decrease in damage from normal hits (13300/12900=1.031), dropping AS option would easily be 15%+ DPS decrease (Testing it my dps went from ~83k to ~71k), dropping a CD option would probably be not as noticeable as dropping AS, but would definitely be quite noticeable, I'd test it but my 1 hour buffs ran out before I had the chance.

Video of testing dps difference of 15% AS vs 12% Skill deck buff vs 15% AS w/o spamming attack+standby (Needless to say 15% AS deck buff easily beat the other two, ~83k vs ~70k vs ~54k)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32v7u9kqEbI

Anyways, please stop spreading incorrect information (ASBing, deck buffs, attribute usefulness, etc.), you're going to make newer players think x is better than y despite there being evidence that y is clearly better.

TPF iam tired of you and your minions supporting you and you have absolute right and against me saying i spreading incorrect information
just Who you think you are?? this is not discord you not the admin here i say whatever i want to say and give my oppinion this is a free world and forum is not yours what you going to cry to yours friends GM to punish me like always? you just cheating they and all people with you fancy words
i just ignore you and report you comment that clearly want to start a fight against me along with you friends i hope that the GM or the admin of the steam is not blind

Something more to add you not are Developer of this game you cant just to have the absolute right about everything and too because you pro YOU cant judge me iam not evil person to give incorrect information i play all days i tested every digimon skills etc to know what i say and to proof that people like you are completely wrong
The Incorrect information is all you and all people keep spreading About ASB DPS belzeemon perfect accesories that is waste of money and resources JUST LOOK THIS GAME is DEAD look new players all quit only for that reason because they dont know how to play and believe is pay to win

There's honestly such an easy solution - if you believe that he's wrong, or lying, just post a video proving as much.

He provided several videos evidencing his point. You should surely be able to provide counter evidence if your stance has similar credibility.
Videos ? videos for what ?? for hack me ? to edit it fake and report me ? last year i was victim that kind of set up against me , and him his discord members laugh about me
i dont have to proof anything
how i going to proof that 90 % of the game is noob and spreading incorrect information if always happen the same like this , i dont care anymore. who want to learn to correct play that listen to me .
if not this already GameOver this game is DEAD is very sad because i love it
Here You have it the proof
https://imgur.com/a/9SzcbPV
apocalymon F2 Darkneess zone 210k damage
and F1 72 K damage
normal attack 50k
iam using omega deck buff and buff normal 50% so i can increase more damage
i not need perfect accesories i not have money crowns iam a noob and i make things you cant do
so good luck playing with incorrect information ASB and all stuff lies
Which Digimon is Better?
Apocalymon (psych) or Apocalymon Bm?
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Which Digimon is Better?
Apocalymon (psych) or Apocalymon Bm?
well Psych is strong like a jogress have more stats than a normal apocalymon is the same like susano waste of digisoul for skill besides give alot of fatigue you need fool thing like digiaura energy patch to end i think is fool to have a digimon who cant digivolve is hard to heal you will need tamers skill memory skill that memory skill for jogress is very expensive and healers in party i dont recommend to have extra evo is very hard to use and boring
Apocalymon bm is not so strong but you can use another evolutions of the digimon line the memory skills are free with vouchers in coliseum you can use extreme evolution to increase damage if you have high hp you can use the strategy of come back to rookie heal and digivolve again every apocalymon is diferent with balanced stats Metalseadramon a little more speed attack puppetmon more skill damage in F2 mugendramon more skill in F1 and Piedmon more atk i think not sure i just only use palmon woodmon line
every line you will have advantages like data Virus to finally Uknown apocalymon is was good to use palmon line before because Spring buff all plant digimon Ancientroiamon was x2 buff to all stats like 3k atk and i kill omegamon raid solo using special chicken heals and memory skill but that event buff is over
i ask a friend who have apocalymon psych and have almost the same skill base damage than my apocalymon bm so i dont think is alot difference between both
Apocalymon Psych is a digimon pay to win alot expensive to upgrade it because developers are lazy and not want to do a rework and balance his stats
Apocalymon Bm is more Free to play easy to get once you have apocalymon bm upgrade with clons etc is not necessary to buy apo psych is almost the same cant digivolve
and Uknown digimon have 75% attribute apocaly psych and armaggemon they are rank 6 of more powerfull digimon but they will always in disvantage agaisnt Light attribute digimon and normal attribute vaccine virus data have 100%
so Uknown digimon like apo and armagedemon are good to use in Colisseum killing monster cards and some dungeons you will always have the advantage thanks to Uknown attribute you not have to change digimon all the time to have attribute advantage or waste buff in other digimons
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Which Digimon is Better?
Apocalymon (psych) or Apocalymon Bm?
well Psych is strong like a jogress have more stats than a normal apocalymon is the same like susano waste of digisoul for skill besides give alot of fatigue you need fool thing like digiaura energy patch to end i think is fool to have a digimon who cant digivolve is hard to heal you will need tamers skill memory skill that memory skill for jogress is very expensive and healers in party i dont recommend to have extra evo is very hard to use and boring
Apocalymon bm is not so strong but you can use another evolutions of the digimon line the memory skills are free with vouchers in coliseum you can use extreme evolution to increase damage if you have high hp you can use the strategy of come back to rookie heal and digivolve again every apocalymon is diferent with balanced stats Metalseadramon a little more speed attack puppetmon more skill damage in F2 mugendramon more skill in F1 and Piedmon more atk i think not sure i just only use palmon woodmon line
every line you will have advantages like data Virus to finally Uknown apocalymon is was good to use palmon line before because Spring buff all plant digimon Ancientroiamon was x2 buff to all stats like 3k atk and i kill omegamon raid solo using special chicken heals and memory skill but that event buff is over
i ask a friend who have apocalymon psych and have almost the same skill base damage than my apocalymon bm so i dont think is alot difference between both
Apocalymon Psych is a digimon pay to win alot expensive to upgrade it because developers are lazy and not want to do a rework and balance his stats
Apocalymon Bm is more Free to play easy to get once you have apocalymon bm upgrade with clons etc is not necessary to buy apo psych is almost the same cant digivolve
and Uknown digimon have 75% attribute apocaly psych and armaggemon they are rank 6 of more powerfull digimon but they will always in disvantage agaisnt Light attribute digimon and normal attribute vaccine virus data have 100%
so Uknown digimon like apo and armagedemon are good to use in Colisseum killing monster cards and some dungeons you will always have the advantage thanks to Uknown attribute you not have to change digimon all the time to have attribute advantage or waste buff in other digimons


The reason why I ask is because I have both Apocalymon (psych) and All Apocalymon BM, but I never use Apo Psych because he fatigues too quickly and I dont feel like buying an arua ever time I want to use him.

Plus I am want to use a digimon that I can solo the EDG raid with quickly. I have a lot of seals that I activated, I have all the clothing with exception of the Royal X-Knight Bracelet and Radiant Earrings. So my attribute and clothing stats are way above average.
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