Truth About the Removal of UlforceVeedramon Future Mode?

[ZarexJaeger]

So, I remember talking about UlforceVeedramon Future Mode with a friend and they brought up an interesting thing to me. It was removed due to being stronger than Omegamon? I have serious doubts about that, but considering how many Digimon got removed or is banned due to copyrights (and not due to other stuff hopefully,) I was wondering if that is what happened as well. If anyone has any information, please let me know.

[76561198354373357]

Stronger than Normal Omegamon, maybe. But i think Omegamon X is the best digi right now until DMO releases the U tier, which we can bet uses 4+ digi to jogress (example, Ogudomon). And regarding Ulforce FM, i remembered they said it WAS because of the copyright, not because Ulforce FM will beat Omegamon in any way.

Correct me if i'm wrong guys.

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by finggaaaatmadja:

Stronger than Normal Omegamon, maybe. But i think Omegamon X is the best digi right now until DMO releases the U tier, which we can bet uses 4+ digi to jogress (example, Ogudomon). And regarding Ulforce FM, i remembered they said it WAS because of the copyright, not because Ulforce FM will beat Omegamon in any way.

Correct me if i'm wrong guys.

Ah, know who might hold the copyright or no?

[76561198342414154]

It was removed due to copyright issues, because it is exclusive from V-Tamer manga and it seems that KDMO released him without permission. They tried to negotiate for Ulforce FM, but negotiations went wrong and they won't release it again ever.

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by AJR_93:

It was removed due to copyright issues, because it is exclusive from V-Tamer manga and it seems that KDMO released him without permission. They tried to negotiate for Ulforce FM, but negotiations went wrong and they won't release it again ever.

Never thought that there was manga exclusive Digimon and how long ago were the negotiations made? Haven't things changed at all or did things go that far South?

[76561198342414154]

Originally posted by ZarexWolf:

Originally posted by AJR_93:

It was removed due to copyright issues, because it is exclusive from V-Tamer manga and it seems that KDMO released him without permission. They tried to negotiate for Ulforce FM, but negotiations went wrong and they won't release it again ever.

Never thought that there was manga exclusive Digimon and how long ago were the negotiations made? Haven't things changed at all or did things go that far South?

In the wiki it says that they are forbidden to add him again.
{LINK REMOVED}https://dmowiki.com/UlforceVeedramon_Future_Mode

You can check the patch notes that KDMO made to explain the situation too.
{LINK REMOVED}http://www.digimonmasters.com/news/main.aspx?o=728636

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by AJR_93:

Originally posted by ZarexWolf:

Never thought that there was manga exclusive Digimon and how long ago were the negotiations made? Haven't things changed at all or did things go that far South?

In the wiki it says that they are forbidden to add him again.
https://dmowiki.com/UlforceVeedramon_Future_Mode

You can check the patch notes that KDMO made to explain the situation too.
http://www.digimonmasters.com/news/main.aspx?o=728636

Dang, whatever the reasons were, I hope that by some miracle it gets changed. I personally don't see a reason why certain Digimon need to be exclusive to certain stuff.

[76561198354373357]

Originally posted by ZarexWolf:

Originally posted by AJR_93:

In the wiki it says that they are forbidden to add him again.
{LINK REMOVED}https://dmowiki.com/UlforceVeedramon_Future_Mode

You can check the patch notes that KDMO made to explain the situation too.
{LINK REMOVED}http://www.digimonmasters.com/news/main.aspx?o=728636

Dang, whatever the reasons were, I hope that by some miracle it gets changed. I personally don't see a reason why certain Digimon need to be exclusive to certain stuff.

Well they did make xcross exclusive to KDMO tho.

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by finggaaaatmadja:

Originally posted by ZarexWolf:

Dang, whatever the reasons were, I hope that by some miracle it gets changed. I personally don't see a reason why certain Digimon need to be exclusive to certain stuff.

Well they did make xcross exclusive to KDMO tho.

That was due to Fusion not being popular outside of Japan and Korea, right?

[76561198354373357]

Originally posted by ZarexWolf:

Originally posted by finggaaaatmadja:

Well they did make xcross exclusive to KDMO tho.

That was due to Fusion not being popular outside of Japan and Korea, right?

What's so different between a Jog and a fusion anywaysXD in the xcross episode where all the main characters were brought to fight something, they did explain that even Omegamon was just a Fusion, not a Jogress. The only Jogress was Imperialdramon. And if fusion was indeed not popular in Japan, what about Yugi Oh XDXD
Oh well, i guess only the devs will know.

[C Bah's]

The author of the V-Tamer manga won’t let any game have the rights for UlforceVeedramon Future Mode, and DMO is no exception. It’s already quite shocking that Hacker’s Memory was able to get Arkadimon Super Ultimate, which until then was exclusive to the manga.

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by Zik:

The author of the V-Tamer manga won’t let any game have the rights for UlforceVeedramon Future Mode, and DMO is no exception. It’s already quite shocking that Hacker’s Memory was able to get Arkadimon Super Ultimate, which until then was exclusive to the manga.

That's why I was thinking maybe things have changed between the author of V-Tamer and Bandai (or whoever does hold the rights for video game Digimon.) Also, I kinda hope there isn't a Ken Penders on either side since that would be disastrous.

[C Bah's]

The only thing that could save the Veedramon line right now would be an UlforceVdramon X...which already exists in Digimon Links so maybe one day we’ll get him

[ZarexJaeger]

Originally posted by RaitekJP:

Originally posted by Zik:

The only thing that could save the Veedramon line right now would be an UlforceVdramon X...which already exists in Digimon Links so maybe one day we’ll get him

Oh right i completely forgot about him. He would be another option for a stronger form.

Honestly surprise we didn't get Ulforce X yet. It would've been an additional nice compromise.

[Clockworx]

I personally think it was a miscommunication but who knows unless Bandai comes forth and tells us their side. From what I remember reading when KDMO announced the Future mode recall it was something like - we asked before got told no, asked again later... added it and got in trouble so now its strictly off limits.

Maybe the Mangaka had brokered a deal way back when that kept it from being used (yes 2003 is 'way back when) I mean he's gotten 1 card, and t hat was it.. in 17 years only getting 1 card no NPCs, no v-pet appearances nothing. just the manga + 1 card.

Yes Future mode was likely designed exclusively for Zeromaru and not any Ulforceveedra.

However since the Futremode update was aparently the one RIGHT before the Omegamon X update i think there was confusion in the name. We know KDMO had to set up meetings and negotiate to add digimon. Logically your going to go and ask for several digi in one go. you not going to japan (or teleconferencing) weekly its just not logical or practical. You go int othe meeting with a list of lets say 10 digimon the company wants to add. Some willbe shot down, others will be approved you make sure you have options. I think the Rep forgot WHICH veedra they were asking about. I think because it was right before Omega X's update that itwas PROBALY requested in the same batch as Omega X. SO you forget its Future mode... you remember Omegamon X. Oh "Yeah we want to add Ulforce Veedramon X"

Bandai- SUrething no problem.

They report back to Move Games, They said yes to everything

Move games proceeds to finish off the Future mode model, they add it and Bandai notices.. "Hey we never said you could add that one"

But thats just my personal speculation Because I would LIKE to think that Move games wasn't just going - we'll ask for permission later. I think it was an honest mistake.. But who knows Maybe there was more to it, maybe the Magnaka had some hand in it all Sadly all we know is there was a copyright issue. and Honestly that can be as simple as- Bandai said no we added it anyways

WE(Move games) violated the copyright so as punishement we can't use him. I mean they could of shut KDMO down for such a thing technically.

Or something more like Bandai forgot about Future mode being some shared rights thing (even Bandai employees are human) The copyright thing did make me realize that we've never seen hi min anything other than the manga nad 1 promo card. So MAYBE the mangaka negotated soem sort of strangle hold but honestly only Move games and Bandai likelyknow the full story as to WHY Futuremode was removed.

[Vinix]

Wait... What?! The mangaka have the Ulforce Future Mode's rights? Just like Takeshi Shudo had from Movie 1 Mewtwo and so they couldn't use it in the Genesect movie?

What's the problem with companies? Most of the time anything created in a media involving that franchise belongs to the company and not the person writing the story. Why in these two cases did they make flexible contracts that only gave them a headache afterwards? It's explained why we never see Future Mode in other media.

But how is Ulforce FM in a situation like this but not Yagami Taichi? You know... The mangaka was the one who created Taichi, not the Adventure writer. How was your iconic hero allowed to be adapted into a completely different anime and is even being used in a reboot now, but not a digievolution that would clearly be useful for Bandai to use in other situations?

None of this makes sense. If it's something like "Our Taichi is different from your Taichi" then it's just Bandai do a slightly different Ulforce FM and say "This is our Future Mode, not yours".