2nd Year Going to Be Finally Out?

[Stallion]

It's been like 100 years?

[DCid]

Still the same message they've been giving out for the last several years.

Year 2 exists and it's still being worked on.

[Stallion]

How long does it take to produce?

It has been 7 years since the first year was released. This is ridiculous. Even if they released Year 2 tomorrow it means we wouldn't see Year 5 until 2038 (21 years) at the rate they are releasing.

[Internet Algae]

Be happy that you got this on Steam?

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Internet Algae:

Be happy that you got this on Steam?

Why? I don't care about that at all?

[Failure incarnate]

Originally posted by Internet Algae:

Be happy that you got this on Steam?

That's irrelevant. It's sold DRM free on other sites for years now.
As enjoyable as the game was it's currently as good as incomplete.

[pysali]

Actually it releasing on steam is relevant. The company has been quiet for a long time and year one is completely playable. At least releasing on Steam gives the game a chance at another round of exposure and getting some much needed positive attention.

Also as much as steam certainly is a form of 'drm' it's pretty much the accepted form of drm and a lot of people will be excited to collect achievements if nothing else. Considering how many indie studios I've seen get through greenlight only to never stay solvent long enough to even release I'll take this. It's nice to be reminded that this little gem is still getting attention, at the very least enough attention to generate more content.

[StrayDogFreedom]

from what i understand, they're a very small company from different countries so they're probably doing the best the can. i'd rather get a worthy successor that takes awhile to make than a less quality product that is put out before it's ready

[Internet Algae]

There's also the fact that the Steam release features a completely remade interface (which if you've used the previous one you'd know was kinda needed) and a raft of other changes. You can also get the game for free if you've owned it before, though I've personally already bought it twice (first time was with some horrible service with time-limited downloads or something, second time GamersGate) and might again to support the devs. Will see depending on price and some other things.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by pysali:

Actually it releasing on steam is relevant.

Very true.

Devs have said repeatedly that getting it on Steam was a priority and that we were unlikely to get any solid news about Year 2 before Year 1 released on Steam.

Whether one cares about it being on Steam or not is irrelevant; what's relevant is that now that Year 1 -is- on Steam, they can focus on Year 2.

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

Originally posted by pysali:

Actually it releasing on steam is relevant.

Very true.

Devs have said repeatedly that getting it on Steam was a priority and that we were unlikely to get any solid news about Year 2 before Year 1 released on Steam.

Whether one cares about it being on Steam or not is irrelevant; what's relevant is that now that Year 1 -is- on Steam, they can focus on Year 2.

Do it's not irrelevant because the developers decided getting a game that is still 1/5th finished after 7 years on STEAM is a priority.

Well... Good to know the developers have the right priorities...

I don't know about you but FAITH RESTORED /s.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Stallion♞:

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

Very true.

Devs have said repeatedly that getting it on Steam was a priority and that we were unlikely to get any solid news about Year 2 before Year 1 released on Steam.

Whether one cares about it being on Steam or not is irrelevant; what's relevant is that now that Year 1 -is- on Steam, they can focus on Year 2.

Do it's not irrelevant because the developers decided getting a game that is still 1/5th finished after 7 years on STEAM is a priority.

Well... Good to know the developers have the right priorities...

I don't know about you but FAITH RESTORED /s.

They plan to bring Year 2 to Steam as well, and it makes sense to get Year 1 here first.

I don't know how close they are to finishing Year 2, but they've been planning on getting Year 1 here for a long time now. It's not like they just decided to do this yesterday. They went through Greenlight and all that.

Given this, when they first decided to bring Year 1 to Steam, they were much less advanced with Year 2.

Having Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 makes sense. It gives them more money to work on Year 2 and, more importantly (I'm guessing), exposure about the series.

Having Year 1 already on Steam when Year 2 comes out should hopefully mean more sales of Year 2.

This is a good thing, and an important thing. The better the Year 2 launch does, the sooner we're likely to get Year 3.

If they launched Year 2 on Steam before Year 1, and nobody knew what it was or bought it, then they released Year 1, they'd make considerably less money overall, which would hurt the development of Year 3.

So, yeah... Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 = good idea, from a business point of view.

Good to know the developers have the right priorities.

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

Originally posted by Stallion♞:

Do it's not irrelevant because the developers decided getting a game that is still 1/5th finished after 7 years on STEAM is a priority.

Well... Good to know the developers have the right priorities...

I don't know about you but FAITH RESTORED /s.

They plan to bring Year 2 to Steam as well, and it makes sense to get Year 1 here first.

I don't know how close they are to finishing Year 2, but they've been planning on getting Year 1 here for a long time now. It's not like they just decided to do this yesterday. They went through Greenlight and all that.

Given this, when they first decided to bring Year 1 to Steam, they were much less advanced with Year 2.

Having Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 makes sense. It gives them more money to work on Year 2 and, more importantly (I'm guessing), exposure about the series.

Having Year 1 already on Steam when Year 2 comes out should hopefully mean more sales of Year 2.

This is a good thing, and an important thing. The better the Year 2 launch does, the sooner we're likely to get Year 3.

If they launched Year 2 on Steam before Year 1, and nobody knew what it was or bought it, then they released Year 1, they'd make considerably less money overall, which would hurt the development of Year 3.

So, yeah... Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 = good idea, from a business point of view.

Good to know the developers have the right priorities.

That's some A-Grade naivety.

Hey you want to buy a car off me? You give me the full $30,000 now and I'll give you a wheel... In 7 years you'll still only have the wheel but I'll allow you to buy the same wheel again through a dealership.

You should be all over this deal. We know that your standards are that low.

[Elegant Caveman]

Originally posted by Stallion♞:

That's some A-Grade naivety.

How so? Please elaborate.

I'm not saying that just because they released Y1 first we'll necessarily see Y2 in a few months and Y3 by the end of the year or even next year.

My point is that however long it takes, the more money they make, the higher the -chances- are of the next games showing up sooner than they would if they made less money.

The bottom line is that releasing Y1 on Steam first means they'll probably make more money when/if they release Y2. What they do with that money is a whole other story, of course.

Wishful thinking? Maybe. Naive? I don't see how. It's just a matter of probability/possibility.

Of course, it's not just about money. Y2+ could be slowed-down/cancelled for a variety of reasons. But the more money they make with Y1/the better it's received, the more likely we are to see Y2, and the better that'll be received, which then feeds into Y3 and the future.

[solamon77]

Originally posted by Stallion♞:

Originally posted by Elegant Caveman:

They plan to bring Year 2 to Steam as well, and it makes sense to get Year 1 here first.

I don't know how close they are to finishing Year 2, but they've been planning on getting Year 1 here for a long time now. It's not like they just decided to do this yesterday. They went through Greenlight and all that.

Given this, when they first decided to bring Year 1 to Steam, they were much less advanced with Year 2.

Having Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 makes sense. It gives them more money to work on Year 2 and, more importantly (I'm guessing), exposure about the series.

Having Year 1 already on Steam when Year 2 comes out should hopefully mean more sales of Year 2.

This is a good thing, and an important thing. The better the Year 2 launch does, the sooner we're likely to get Year 3.

If they launched Year 2 on Steam before Year 1, and nobody knew what it was or bought it, then they released Year 1, they'd make considerably less money overall, which would hurt the development of Year 3.

So, yeah... Year 1 on Steam before Year 2 = good idea, from a business point of view.

Good to know the developers have the right priorities.

That's some A-Grade naivety.

Hey you want to buy a car off me? You give me the full $30,000 now and I'll give you a wheel... In 7 years you'll still only have the wheel but I'll allow you to buy the same wheel again through a dealership.

You should be all over this deal. We know that your standards are that low.

Year 1 is as complete a game as each individual Mass Effect game is. Yes they link together, but that doesn't mean when you buy Mass Effect 1 you are buying 1/3rd of a game. Your analogy is faulty.

[Stallion]

Originally posted by Solamon77:

Originally posted by Stallion♞:

That's some A-Grade naivety.

Hey you want to buy a car off me? You give me the full $30,000 now and I'll give you a wheel... In 7 years you'll still only have the wheel but I'll allow you to buy the same wheel again through a dealership.

You should be all over this deal. We know that your standards are that low.

Year 1 is as complete a game as each individual Mass Effect game is. Yes they link together, but that doesn't mean when you buy Mass Effect 1 you are buying 1/3rd of a game. Your analogy is faulty.

No it's actually not. Year 1 is the first part of a promised 5 part series. It's more akin to a Telltale game that releases episodically. Except they only released part 1.

It is clearly not a standalone game considering that a stand-alone game has an ending. Academagia Year 1 has no proper ending, simply a lead-in to Year 2.

Your ability to critically think is faulty.

The amount of people willing to act as unpaid company shills and defend even the most indefensible practices is frankly sickening. People could give ya'll garbage and you'd gobble it up and ask for seconds. You people are the reason that Steam early access is the joke that it is.