Can We Stop With the “Body Type A/B” Nonsense?

[Nebii]

I saw on social media about the masculine and feminine body type floating around and I have to say while I'm not surprised a gaming company made this discussion, it's disappointing all the same. They legit look the exact same person while the first game they looked completely different...

You might as well just have one body type if you want to be gender inclusive instead of giving us the illusion of choice where you can probably can put a beard on a woman or a male have boobs and other rubbish like that.

[Polyedra]

just select what u like, that's the point and what u can do.
don't worry about what others select, it's not your business.

[Polyedra]

another point is that there are, aesthetically or artistically, just a few strokes between a female body and a male one. we're quite similar, being human. quite an important point to make, and quite an important point to understand, despite it being inconvenient to face for those with most of their identity tied up into their genitalia.
if you have a weak identity you need to lean towards a strong and clear concept. the point here being that you are you, not a reproductive organ or a bodily feature. but sure, those things are part of you, and so is your behaviour, which is what masculine and feminine means: how we behave.

[Polyedra]

if u r not male, then u r female; right? therefore males are in crisis, because male properties are all negative. name one male trait that isn't actually a feminine trait that is positive. males are of war, warriors. there's nothing positive about destruction but defense, which is feminine.. fending is feminine, warding is feminine; guarding is essentially caring, which is feminine. u c how this leads to an identity crisis in a society where aggression is useless, detrimental even, and forbidden of course. we're all pacifists, which is feminine, because if we weren't we'd be dangerous to the others and would have to be put down or put away.
this exploration we're doing is very worthwhile from this standpoint, and the greatest gainers are males. females are well fortified already. cause that's what this is about: insecurity, identity.

[Polyedra]

:)

[Polyedra]

just telling u what's going on. i get u got these deep e-motions about it, but eventually u just have to face reality like everyone does. none of this is ever going away but it will always change, and it always did. existing, u have to face change as it is the only clear constant.

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by Polyedra:

just telling u what's going on. i get u got these deep e-motions about it, but eventually u just have to face reality like everyone does. none of this is ever going away but it will always change, and it always did. existing, u have to face change as it is the only clear constant.

Except Trump is going to make male and female the only 2 genders observed by the United States. I have no idea how that might or might not affect video games though. There's actually a Forbes video of him talking about it on Youtube.

[eijibayushi]

Originally posted by Daedrius:

Originally posted by Polyedra:

just telling u what's going on. i get u got these deep e-motions about it, but eventually u just have to face reality like everyone does. none of this is ever going away but it will always change, and it always did. existing, u have to face change as it is the only clear constant.

Except Trump is going to make male and female the only 2 genders observed by the United States. I have no idea how that might or might not affect video games though. There's actually a Forbes video of him talking about it on Youtube.

He's a fool and says he's going to do a lot of things. Hows that coal coming back going?

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by eijibayushi:

Originally posted by Daedrius:

Except Trump is going to make male and female the only 2 genders observed by the United States. I have no idea how that might or might not affect video games though. There's actually a Forbes video of him talking about it on Youtube.

He's a fool and says he's going to do a lot of things. Hows that coal coming back going?

He's not sworn in yet. Inauguration is in 3 days.

[Polyedra]

Originally posted by Nebii:

Originally posted by Polyedra:

just select what u like, that's the point and what u can do.
don't worry about what others select, it's not your business.

I knew I'd get this lazy ChatGPT response sooner or later. This has nothing to do with others pick. If you want to headcanon your character as a trans black women with Vitiligo and Autism, more power to you.

and my point is that you're pretty offensive saying things like that. which show clearly the invalidity of your complaint, if you think about it.
if u want to roleplay, do; same answer right back at you. roleplay u got big bobs, problem solved. for me that's distracting, not how my warrior looks. but it's always a woman, cause i think that's cool. so we have different preferences. how to solve that? choice. but how much choice? that's up to the developers. these cater to me, it seems, in this regard, which is good for me then. unfortunately we have diametrically opposed opinions, meaning it can't be both ways: You like to limit choices for everyone, including yourself, and others want these options you want to remove. Well, up to the makers of the game to make what they like; to see their vision true.

Originally posted by Nebii:

My point is that the Bloodlines 2 MC's just feels lazy compared to the first game where they looked completely different to one another. Be honest with me here: could you tell from a glance on what was what? Also, concepts like preferred pronouns and the body type A/B nonsense insults the common sense and reality of the normal person. If a developer implements that into the game, I'm going to assume they participate in reality delusion.

The 'normal' person thinks nothing of this, just selects the option they like and goes.
To people, like yourself, gender is just selecting male or female; so they do, disregarding it's called masculine and feminine, and the meaning of those, as that's irrelevant to their game experience. So people don't care, but u do, for clear political reasons: You want to say that there's two SEXES, which has nothing to do with gender as that's a behavior and not a genitalia. To discuss this you have to accept the definition of the word or there can not be a meaningful dialogue as you're talking about something else.

Originally posted by Nebii:

There are only two genders in the world, everything else is made up fairy tale titles to make them feel special.

Just like games then, all made up. But behaviour is real, absolutely real. And you know the difference, clear as day, when you meet a feminine male or a masculine woman.
The intricacy is that gender overlaps, what is masculine overlaps into what's feminine creating an interference shade that makes it difficult, or impossible, to determine exactly where the lines are drawn, which is why you label "gender" as "genitalia" or "sex". That makes sense to you and makes you feel safe about YOUR identity, but it's not what gender means and is not a true image, and has nothing to do with the gender discussion or theory, it's just white noise that goes nowhere.

In some near future, or I believe near, we'll have that ai project a world and a game for us with the rules we set. If something is off, we just remove it or replace it. You can have your fantasy of big bobs and i can have mine of a warrior woman. But right now we have to go with what the creators of the game manages and decides. And to me this is the right decision. To you it's the wrong one. Not because of the game but how it influences people to think outside the box on what behaviour is. You don't want OTHERS to think this because you live with them and you hate the idea of non-girly women, or girly men, as that complicates YOUR fragile self-image, but the thing is that an idea can never be slain. It must be understood to advance.

You're flailing at shadows, friend. It's just a shadow, don't worry; it can't harm you. Girls will always be girls and boys be boys, forever. What that means changes but the core remains.

and hey, it's a common thing to call me a robot for disputing u. it's an old thing, that.
this spot's getting locked for sure. all u got here are insults to most people. and yea, i dare say most cause all u people ever do is yell while regulars pass by shaking their heads. no one wanna talk to u but some of us has to as your reactionary ideals cannot be allowed to stand unchallenged for all of our sakes. or just to show that there are sane people out there that do want to INCLUDE. but hey, i'm an exclusionist too: someone like you i block and pass forever. My vision is that there will soon be login to the net, for a variety of reasons; mostly economical of course, as economy dictates most things. With this login there would be a possibility to block a user, or entity, from all platforms of the net; meaning we, me and you, would never meet again. That's my dream as it ends trolling. Anyone trolling will find themselves unable to make contact with anyone but trolls, eventually; meaning that there will be a heavy price for rudeness and impolite talk, and that there will be real protection for those of us who like to communicate and think without disruptions like you present. Have your ideas, sure, but present them in a dignified and thought through manner, without spite, and then we'll have a talk. ur off now then, forever, on this platform at least. let's hope we get the full off soon, and that u get a nice notification that ur off and can thereby select to off me in return, minimizing our contact surface; as we both desire. except that U r 100% about changing ME, and this would be very damaging to u from that perspective, while I do not care if u change, I just want u out of my face forever.

[virel]

Originally posted by Nebii:

Originally posted by Polyedra:

just select what u like, that's the point and what u can do.
don't worry about what others select, it's not your business.

I knew I'd get this lazy ChatGPT response sooner or later. This has nothing to do with others pick. If you want to headcanon your character as a trans black women with Vitiligo and Autism, more power to you.

My point is that the Bloodlines 2 MC's just feels lazy compared to the first game where they looked completely different to one another. Be honest with me here: could you tell from a glance on what was what? Also, concepts like preferred pronouns and the body type A/B nonsense insults the common sense and reality of the normal person. If a developer implements that into the game, I'm going to assume they participate in reality delusion.

There are only two genders in the world, everything else is made up fairy tale titles to make them feel special.

Yes, there may not be enough radically different appearances here, but it is also impossible to claim that the provided appearance is bad, unless of course you are just picking on something.

[Polyedra]

Originally posted by eijibayushi:

Originally posted by Daedrius:

Except Trump is going to make male and female the only 2 genders observed by the United States. I have no idea how that might or might not affect video games though. There's actually a Forbes video of him talking about it on Youtube.

He's a fool and says he's going to do a lot of things. Hows that coal coming back going?

no one can kill an idea. that's been proven over history and is proven daily. the idea must be comprehended to advance. without comprehension it will just linger.
trump tho, being an ignorant megalomaniac, wanna rename the mexican gulf into the american gulf. gl trump.. just... yea, that's who he is; that's how clever he is.
found this image of trump and musk. trump with blue suit and a red tie with a red KEEP AMERICA WHITE AGAIN cap, and musk with black leather and black shades.
terminator + clown. that's how real those guys are. and i think trump realises hehe.. i see it on his face sometimes on the pics.. that frown.. the insecurity gnawing at him. he knows he look inferior, and he knows how history will judge him. but rn, clowning is hot. clownery like: there's only two sexes. ya but bro, this isn't about genitalia; it's about behaviour and how it overlaps, it's psychology. r u a psychologist? he thinks he is, ofc, due to his insanity. just like this op thinks he's making a relevant statement when in reality it has nothing to do with the actual discussion. a discussion he's trying to prevent, just like trump. and trump probably does think that he can make it illegal to talk about this, or think about it ROFLOOOOL gl america.. remember to keep it white yo.. going to be a rude awakening for americans. just watch his bragging into non-accomplishment into more bragging.

[Polyedra]

nah, u disagreeing with an apperance is a you-problem. and it's ur cross to bear.

[Polyedra]

or an appearance.. it's the whole thing: u disagree with the thought. k. that's an academic discussion that u need to get involved with then. this is not an academy but a gamer forum, so head on over to the proper channels and involve yourself in the actual discussion you're trying to have. u going to get slaughtered though, cause u don't even know the basics of what this is about. then u'll learn, adapt and rethink, and eventually u going to realise that this is the only way.

[suspiria_2]

looks like maybe male a and boy b.

i see no "men" or "women" here, body type wise.

to include these as options is fine.

to make them the only thing one can look at---not inclusive of probably the vast majority of player preference. half of playing a vampire is the fantasy of being the seductive bloodsucker. whether you have a "real" sexuality as a vampire--nearly irrelevant. it's a part of the package and a part of the power of the genre.

the gown they have them both in simply highlights that there's little to no difference.

maybe the world is "moving on" since we're all in the same slouchy hoodies and so on, but some of us actually LIKE the differences that history came up with, at least on a visual level.

[Nadia]

Find it kind of Ironic that all the guys who preach diversity go for this A & B nonsense that is so sameness....