No character creation?

[sigina ✝]

I was told that they removed it, is it true?

[Hao Zhao]

There's more character creation than there was in Bloodlines 1.

[Shinno]

You will be able to pick a male model for Phyre, thank God but that's about all we know.

[CapJackRackham]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

There's more character creation than there was in Bloodlines 1.

Care to show your source on this?

[Krieger]

You can choose between Body Type 1 and 2, and you'll also able to choose your pronouns. As such it already has a deeper character creation than the bigoted first game.

[CapJackRackham]

Originally posted by Krieger:

You can choose between Body Type 1 and 2, and you'll also able to choose your pronouns. As such it already has a deeper character creation than the bigoted first game.

Can you choose your pronouns? Where have you seen gameplay/screenshots/trailers etc that shows Phyre being described as anything other than She/Her? We have been told we have male and female characters per clan.

Where is your source?

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

There's more character creation than there was in Bloodlines 1.

Care to show your source on this?

We've already seen multiple Phyre body types in concept art. Just yesterday they released the Dev Diary #2 recap where it was confirmed that you choose Phyre's entire background and it actually has consequences on the story. All of that is waaaaayyyy ahead of Bloodlines 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJO1WlvDU&ab_channel=WorldofDarkness

[EverNaughty]

Originally posted by Shinno:

You will be able to pick a male model for Phyre, thank God but that's about all we know.:lone:

Sorry but no, in the french steam description page, it is clearly noted "Jouer UNE ancienNNE" so we will only get phyre .....

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by EverNaughty:

Originally posted by Shinno:

You will be able to pick a male model for Phyre, thank God but that's about all we know.:lone:

Sorry but no, in the french steam description page, it is clearly noted "Jouer UNE ancienNNE" so we will only get phyre .....

It's already been confirmed many times that you can choose between male and female Phyre.

[EverNaughty]

Originally posted by W.R. Winter:

Originally posted by EverNaughty:

Sorry but no, in the french steam description page, it is clearly noted "Jouer UNE ancienNNE" so we will only get phyre .....

defaulting to male/female pronouns is a (somewhat recent) convention of tabletop RPGs, I'm 70% sure that the feminine conjugation there is a similar case. it's not confirmation of anything, they're just defaulting to one instead of specifying both.

I really hope you're right.

[CapJackRackham]

Originally posted by W.R. Winter:

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

Can you choose your pronouns? Where have you seen gameplay/screenshots/trailers etc that shows Phyre being described as anything other than She/Her? We have been told we have male and female characters per clan.

Where is your source?

no way there's a source for that but it's a very good prediction imo. don't bet against it.

I agree it's a possibility. But unlikely if we are getting male and female characters.

What's the reason withholding pronoun's? The abuse, if it's going to rub people up the wrong way, why delay until release before stating you can choose pronouns when it'll create a lot of backlash? Why not get it out the way now and take the heat out of it with a year before release? The issue is, we haven't been given anywhere near the level of character creation as of yet. It's a very basic formula slapped onto a vampire action game.

All we know so far is that each clan had male and female characters with a selection of outfits that will be non clan specific. The lack of confirmation of outfit quantity, ability to change hairstyles/colour/eyes/eyebrows etc.

[Shinno]

Originally posted by EverNaughty:

Originally posted by Shinno:

You will be able to pick a male model for Phyre, thank God but that's about all we know.

Sorry but no, in the french steam description page, it is clearly noted "Jouer UNE ancienNNE" so we will only get phyre .....

Sigh... Scroll down the comment section - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcDEhivcr-w
"You will be able to pick a male model for Phyre, we will show it in the future 🦇" - @worldofdarkness mod.

[CapJackRackham]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

Care to show your source on this?

We've already seen multiple Phyre body types in concept art. Just yesterday they released the Dev Diary #2 recap where it was confirmed that you choose Phyre's entire background and it actually has consequences on the story. All of that is waaaaayyyy ahead of Bloodlines 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJO1WlvDU&ab_channel=WorldofDarkness

Examples please...

How exactly is that waaaay more of character creation than Bloodlines 1?

Character creation...as in creation!

So a pre set character isn't creation.

Can you show source of where we can "Create" more in bloodlines 2 than in bloodlines 1?


As for the dialogue, we have been told we can choose what aspects of our backstory we can tell others. So in terms of dialogue, yes that is more than what we could do with bloodlines 1. Bloodlines 1 gave you the ability to choose your history at the start of the game at the character creation stage. So in terms of choosing your history, bloodlines 1 has more choice than Bloodlines 2. Unless you can show a source confirming each clan can choose different history's? Because so far we've been told it's a singular history of Phyre which we can choose what elements we divulge to others.

So all you've done is confirm the lack of true customisation in dialogue. We will get a few things that are locked behind clan specific (Which you have in bloodlines 1).


So again, your source?

[Gesuma]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

Care to show your source on this?

We've already seen multiple Phyre body types in concept art. Just yesterday they released the Dev Diary #2 recap where it was confirmed that you choose Phyre's entire background and it actually has consequences on the story. All of that is waaaaayyyy ahead of Bloodlines 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJO1WlvDU&ab_channel=WorldofDarkness

Yeah I actually thought it was their best video yet. Of cause we do not know until we are in it, if the concept are done well and works well, but I like the idea and the minor info on why and how this will work in game.

This could be a good game after all.

[CapJackRackham]

Originally posted by W.R. Winter:

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

I agree it's a possibility. But unlikely if we are getting male and female characters.

What's the reason withholding pronoun's? The abuse, if it's going to rub people up the wrong way, why delay until release before stating you can choose pronouns when it'll create a lot of backlash? Why not get it out the way now and take the heat out of it with a year before release?

you're not being cynical enough, if they're smart the backlash will be factored into their marketing. no such thing as bad publicity.

I kind of agree and disagree.

I'm very cynical when it comes to this game.

But there is definitely such a think as bad publicity. Plenty of games that bombed upon release due to player expectations. You might be right in the teams thinking, but if they were smart doesn't seem to be something we can say in the same sentence as this game. You might be right...we'll have to wait and see.

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by CapJackRackham:

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

We've already seen multiple Phyre body types in concept art. Just yesterday they released the Dev Diary #2 recap where it was confirmed that you choose Phyre's entire background and it actually has consequences on the story. All of that is waaaaayyyy ahead of Bloodlines 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6TJO1WlvDU&ab_channel=WorldofDarkness

Examples please...

How exactly is that waaaay more of character creation than Bloodlines 1?

Character creation...as in creation!

So a pre set character isn't creation.

Can you show source of where we can "Create" more in bloodlines 2 than in bloodlines 1?


As for the dialogue, we have been told we can choose what aspects of our backstory we can tell others. So in terms of dialogue, yes that is more than what we could do with bloodlines 1. Bloodlines 1 gave you the ability to choose your history at the start of the game at the character creation stage. So in terms of choosing your history, bloodlines 1 has more choice than Bloodlines 2. Unless you can show a source confirming each clan can choose different history's? Because so far we've been told it's a singular history of Phyre which we can choose what elements we divulge to others.

So all you've done is confirm the lack of true customisation in dialogue. We will get a few things that are locked behind clan specific (Which you have in bloodlines 1).


So again, your source?

So, you clearly didn't watch the video and then you ask for a source. Watch the video. The video is the source. The video explicitly says we choose Phyre's entire history.

Bloodlines 1 had no choices in character creation beyond choosing a clan and filling in your stats on the character sheet. Your character model was pre-selected for you.

Many people also have a hard time telling the difference between Bloodlines 1 and mods for Bloodlines 1. There are no character histories in the actual Bloodlines 1. Histories were added to the game by the Plus Patch which is a mod.