Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

Clever Name Dec 15, 2023 @ 8:11pm
Favorite disciplines
Per the title, share your favorite disciplines, including the 3 you'd choose for your custom clan or bloodline or caitiff.

While social disciplines can potentially create wide-ranging power structures, I favor the physical disciplines for their ability to help you survive from night to night.

With that in mind, I consider Celerity and Fortitude as absolutely necessary for survival. Which then leaves the third discipline selection. Oblivion would be a solid choice, as it, like Celerity, offers defensive as well as offensive capability. I'd also consider Protean for the same reasons.

Ultimately though, I'd choose Obfuscate. Combined with the disciplines already mentioned, it offers layer upon layer of making your character annoyingly difficult to deal with in combat.
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Clever Name Dec 15, 2023 @ 8:36pm 
More specifically, the individual abilities I'd take from each discipline (V5):

Celerity: Cat's Grace, Rapid Reflexes, Fleetness, Traversal, Blurred Momentum.

So, a purely defensive build. Probably a mistake to not throw in some offensive or dual purpose abilities like Blink, but whatever.

Fortitude:

Resilience, Unswayable Mind, Toughness, Defy Bane, Prowess from Pain.

I consider Prowess more broadly useful than the other 5 dot ability, Flesh of Marble; it allows you to be unimpaired even after taking crippling damage.

Obfuscate:

Cloak of Shadows, Silence of Death, Unseen Passage, Ghost in the Machine, Vanish.

Didn't bother with a 5 dot ability, as with Celerity. I'd rather have more free and always-on bonuses from level 1.
Harukage Dec 15, 2023 @ 10:42pm 
Protean, Animalism and Dominate. So yeah, i want to be Tzimisce.
Then i will add some extra disciplines to perfect my style. Blood Sorcery, to capitalize on Koldunic tradition, and is easy enough to aquire as Tzimisce. Auspex is a must for every vamp if you ask me. And Celerity just in case.
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Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:08am 
Auspex - I enjoy seeing more than other players do.

Dementation - more than I love the power itself, I love the concept of the madness network.
Also, "The Sword of Malkav: Change a fundamental truth of a target with an idea of your own and make them unable to fathom that the new truth could be false"

Chimerstry (Ravnos) - because if you're sufficiently powerful in making illusions you're eventually make them real. ("Truths of the Universe: Make a created illusion permanently real" - no DM will ever allow it though. maybe succeeding in doing this will be the climax of a campaign or something). Also Synesthesia is cool.
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Harukage Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:13am 
Neither Dementation or Chimestry are disciplines in V5. They are amalgam powers.
Though to be fair Dementation by the lore was a warped Dominate discipline to begin with. And at some point Malkavians got their ♥♥♥♥ together and reverted to Dominate, however things happened and they reaquired Dementation again. But this time some Malks were able to hold onto their sanity and keep Dominate as their discipline.
That is not particulary relevant in V5 though, because as i had said Dementation is an amalgam power now.
Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Harukage:
Neither Dementation or Chimestry are disciplines in V5. They are amalgam powers.
Though to be fair Dementation by the lore was a warped Dominate discipline to begin with. And at some point Malkavians got their ♥♥♥♥ together and reverted to Dominate, however things happened and they reaquired Dementation again. But this time some Malks were able to hold onto their sanity and keep Dominate as their discipline.
That is not particulary relevant in V5 though, because as i had said Dementation is an amalgam power now.
The great prank was a great prank. The masquerade is real, and V5 author's have been bamboozled by the best clan. They simply are unable to fathom that this is true. Pleb mortals aren't even able to fathom what is real even when shown and told.

*someone maniacally laughs in the background but there's nobody there*
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Polyedra Dec 16, 2023 @ 1:29am 
It has to be Celerity, Potence and Fortitude. That's perfection.
Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by Polyedra:
It has to be Celerity, Potence and Fortitude. That's perfection.
So basic wow. You want to be superman.
From all of the sheer diversity in the amazing VtM disciplines you choose the most archetypal?
I think we are now officially enemies, with conflicting points of view on what is awesome about WoD and how WoD should be, to the point there can be no peace. I'm going to assemble my army and we're going to fight to the death.
Have a sunless day.
Polyedra Dec 16, 2023 @ 1:49am 
Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:
Auspex - I enjoy seeing more than other players do.

Dementation - more than I love the power itself, I love the concept of the madness network.
Also, "The Sword of Malkav: Change a fundamental truth of a target with an idea of your own and make them unable to fathom that the new truth could be false"

Chimerstry (Ravnos) - because if you're sufficiently powerful in making illusions you're eventually make them real. ("Truths of the Universe: Make a created illusion permanently real" - no DM will ever allow it though. maybe succeeding in doing this will be the climax of a campaign or something). Also Synesthesia is cool.
You believe yourself to be more observant than others.
You believe yourself to be in control where others are lost.
You believe a lie can be made true with rhetorics.

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:
Originally posted by Polyedra:
It has to be Celerity, Potence and Fortitude. That's perfection.
So basic wow. You want to be superman.
From all of the sheer diversity in the amazing VtM disciplines you choose the most archetypal?
I think we are now officially enemies, with conflicting points of view on what is awesome about WoD and how WoD should be, to the point there can be no peace. I'm going to assemble my army and we're going to fight to the death.
Have a sunless day.
I like it raw. To go with I like an excellent combat system. Not a click pointer.
I like combat, and you like confusion.
I like up front close and personal while you like hiding behind deceit.
I am also a loner, depending on myself, while you depend on others for support.
Come at me, I will break you into little splinters.
Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:10am 
I am more observant than others and your manipulative schticks don't work on me.

By your own logic, you believe yourself to be an omnipotent superhero.

I do not believe anybody is in control. Control is an illusion. We are all on predetermined paths. Rational is just as constricting a jail as madness.

I find that the ultimate joy for me perhaps could be found in the act of imagining something and then it becoming true (an act that truly is only reserved for God), and I so wish that I could draw something and it be real. I think many of the original creators and fans of WoD, and other fantasy worlds, and even the greatest of them all (Tolkien), would agree that imagining a fantastical world to the point where you can temporarily live in it is one of the most freeing thought-acts that a man can make.

I just celebrated the last candle of Hanuka, and if anything, I wish that light could remove the illusions and delusions we create when it is absent.

PS: I don't like confusion; I simply can't accuse you of some things without valid evidence... But implying caution is a valid action, and the resulting confusion gives me more points to connect, and others a raised eyebrow, Mr subversion.
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Polyedra Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:13am 
Yea, fantasy. You're right it's a good hiding spot. Well written, great retort.
Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:16am 
Originally posted by Polyedra:
Yea, fantasy. You're right it's a good hiding spot. Well written, great retort.
Thank you I feel pretty clever.
Gesuma Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:53am 
Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:
Have a sunless day.
Huh?
Polyedra Dec 16, 2023 @ 3:13am 
Originally posted by Gesuma:
Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:
Have a sunless day.
Huh?
I interpreted it as purposedly ambiguous.
In the World of Darkness it would be a well wishing as I combust from the sun, but in the real world it would be a cursing as my day is more boring without sun.
Then it's up to me how I feel about it. Friendly enough, perhaps; spirited, creative?
Polyedra Dec 16, 2023 @ 3:20am 
Perhaps not as it is ambiguous and ambiguity creates uncertainty which leads to confusion.
Perhaps it's actually manipulative and ill-intended.
Only one who will ever know the true intent is the creator.
Coffee Break Hero Dec 16, 2023 @ 4:06am 
Originally posted by Polyedra:
Perhaps not as it is ambiguous and ambiguity creates uncertainty which leads to confusion.
Perhaps it's actually manipulative and ill-intended.
Only one who will ever know the true intent is the creator.
No, no.
I know.
I see you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CVxSGPWyo
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