Don't release this game anytime soon, please

[Konran]

We're all seeing what happened to Redfall, we don't want another vampire game to have the same fate. Take your time, dear devs.

[Coffee Break Hero]

the problem is that you're assuming that if they'll release it in 2030 it'll be good.
art doesn't work that way.
a game can be fully functional and bugless and still soulless and bland

[Konran]

It depends. For example, a good enemy AI alone can prevent a game's world to feel soulless and bland, but that's just based on my experiences with gaming, yours can be different.

[Hao Zhao]

If they didn't care about the quality of the game, they could have released it 3 years ago. The entire point of the delay was to make the game better

[Konran]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

If they didn't care about the quality of the game, they could have released it 3 years ago. The entire point of the delay was to make the game better

Yeah, but that didn't work out for Cyberpunk 2077, did it? I don't want them just to take longer to release the game, I want they to actually take their time with every aspect of it. We deserve a masterpiece.

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by Konran:

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

If they didn't care about the quality of the game, they could have released it 3 years ago. The entire point of the delay was to make the game better

Yeah, but that didn't work out for Cyberpunk 2077, did it? I don't want them just to take longer to release the game, I want they to actually take their time with every aspect of it. We deserve a masterpiece.

Cyberpunk 2077's problem was that it launched before it was ready. If they had launched this game, 3 years ago, as they originally intended, then it would have had a launch like CP2077.

Not that CP2077 wasn't a run away success. It was! 10,000,000 sales during its first month and that number has since doubled. If you're suggesting that Bloodlines 2 is only going to sell 20,000,000 copies, I suspect Paradox will learn to cope with that grief. lol

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Konran:

It depends. For example, a good enemy AI alone can prevent a game's world to feel soulless and bland, but that's just based on my experiences with gaming, yours can be different.

not a single thing makes a great RPG.
people praise bloodlines for the writing, but the voice actors were all amazing. and the soundtrack was amazing. and the hub world design was amazing for the time. and the character sheet and its uses. etc etc.
the AI is pretty good, but not great though. I'm doing the hunter mission rn, and the hunters have conversations and search for you when you do stealth kills, but I easily stealth kill them all with obfuscate and nobody realized anything. I mean, it's not F.E.A.R. level AI, but then again, that's true for 2023 games too.
the game would be less without any of those, you see my point?

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Konran:

Yeah, but that didn't work out for Cyberpunk 2077, did it? I don't want them just to take longer to release the game, I want they to actually take their time with every aspect of it. We deserve a masterpiece.

Cyberpunk 2077's problem was that it launched before it was ready. If they had launched this game, 3 years ago, as they originally intended, then it would have had a launch like CP2077.

Not that CP2077 wasn't a run away success. It was! 10,000,000 sales during its first month and that number has since doubled. If you're suggesting that Bloodlines 2 is only going to sell 20,000,000 copies, I suspect Paradox will learn to cope with that grief. lol

that's not how it works. it's all relative to what it could and should have been. it's only absolute in the outright deceitful practices of CDPR.
and don't put words in people's mouths.

[Mharr]

Or release it hot & broken but drop the dev tools too so we can fix the bastard again

[Typhurin]

Idk why people keep saying don't release it any time soon, it was supposed to come out 3 years ago lol. Sometime soon would've been a few months after it was 'supposed' to be out. I think I read somewhere that this game has been in development since 2015/2016. Realistically I'm not quite sure what's left to develop after all this time.

[Greywolf]

Originally posted by Konran:

It depends. For example, a good enemy AI alone can prevent a game's world to feel soulless and bland, but that's just based on my experiences with gaming, yours can be different.

Hmmm... you are talking Paradox here, "Good A.I." is not part of their vocabulary. ;)