this game going to be super woke

[PainKiller]

that why they wiped the true creators . any one think otherwise? it happened way before all the woke plough went into the movies games... so they preparing it to be woke.

[Hao Zhao]

This conspiracy theory has been debunked many times.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Neither debunked nor proven.

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

Neither debunked nor proven.

No, it was decisively debunked. The conspiracy theory is that the old devs were fired because they weren't "woke" enough. Both Brian Mitsoda and Cara Ellison are on tape talking about how it was Brian who was censoring the other writers and how Brian wanted to write transgender characters who are voiced by transgender actors. Brian was always the most "woke" person on the team which shouldn't be a surprise considering how anti-conservative the first game was.

Brian Mitsoda is a great man and I really support his views.

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

Neither debunked nor proven.

No, it was decisively debunked. The conspiracy theory is that the old devs were fired because they weren't "woke" enough. Both Brian Mitsoda and Cara Ellison are on tape talking about how it was Brian who was censoring the other writers and how Brian wanted to write transgender characters who are voiced by transgender actors. Brian was always the most "woke" person on the team which shouldn't be a surprise considering how anti-conservative the first game was.

Brian Mitsoda is a great man and I really support his views.

No

[Avalanche]

I don't remember the first game being anti-conservative, but then again, it wasn't so in your face back then, like it is today.

I do find it strange how one side is supporting self-segregation, its always a facepalming event when they talk. lol

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by Avalanche:

I don't remember the first game being anti-conservative, but then again, it wasn't so in your face back then, like it is today.

I do find it strange how one side is supporting self-segregation, its always a facepalming event when they talk. lol

Brian Mitsoda literally used the first game to ridicule both George W. Bush and the Republican Party by name. lol

[Avalanche]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Avalanche:

I don't remember the first game being anti-conservative, but then again, it wasn't so in your face back then, like it is today.

I do find it strange how one side is supporting self-segregation, its always a facepalming event when they talk. lol

Brian Mitsoda literally used the first game to ridicule both George W. Bush and the Republican Party by name. lol

Didn't notice it to be honest, but then i was a drone back then.

[Blackcrusader6]

nice trolling XDD

[Coffee Break Hero]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Avalanche:

I don't remember the first game being anti-conservative, but then again, it wasn't so in your face back then, like it is today.

I do find it strange how one side is supporting self-segregation, its always a facepalming event when they talk. lol

Brian Mitsoda literally used the first game to ridicule both George W. Bush and the Republican Party by name. lol

and punched down prostitutes, and drug addicts, and homeless people.
and had girls dancing in cages.
and had a mission to deliver a prostitute to a friend in need.
and a ton of light-hearted racist humor towards blacks and Chinese. (the hateful racism like, just the rush hour type)

sure, the game had an overall anarchist theme about destroying a currupt traditional phallic building, but it had it all.

Left does not mean woke

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Brian Mitsoda literally used the first game to ridicule both George W. Bush and the Republican Party by name. lol

and punched down prostitutes, and drug addicts, and homeless people.
and had girls dancing in cages.
and had a mission to deliver a prostitute to a friend in need.
and a ton of light-hearted racist humor towards blacks and Chinese. (the hateful racism like, just the rush hour type)

sure, the game had an overall anarchist theme about destroying a currupt traditional phallic building, but it had it all.

Left does not mean woke

There's nothing in Bloodlines that you couldn't see on a 2004 episode of the Daily Show. If you don't think Mitsoda is "woke" that's great. You've embraced his transgender positive politics and I am supportive of that.

[Coffee Break Hero]

classic subversion Hao.

[Hao Zhao]

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

classic subversion Hao.

Subversion refers to undermining government institutions. I don't know why you keep using this word wrong. It comes from the Latin word 'subvertere' which means to overthrow. I have never subverted anything in my life and I suspect no one else here has subverted anything either. lol

[PainKiller]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

This conspiracy theory has been debunked many times.

hope you are right

[Bumbo]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Coffee Break Hero:

Neither debunked nor proven.

No, it was decisively debunked. The conspiracy theory is that the old devs were fired because they weren't "woke" enough. Both Brian Mitsoda and Cara Ellison are on tape talking about how it was Brian who was censoring the other writers and how Brian wanted to write transgender characters who are voiced by transgender actors. Brian was always the most "woke" person on the team which shouldn't be a surprise considering how anti-conservative the first game was.

Brian Mitsoda is a great man and I really support his views.

Having a parasocial relationship like this is cringe. A great man? For what, exactly? Writing a few throwaway jokes in a game?

[Anvos]

Originally posted by Hao Zhao:

Originally posted by Avalanche:

I don't remember the first game being anti-conservative, but then again, it wasn't so in your face back then, like it is today.

I do find it strange how one side is supporting self-segregation, its always a facepalming event when they talk. lol

Brian Mitsoda literally used the first game to ridicule both George W. Bush and the Republican Party by name. lol

You really don't understand WoD if you think either side of the aisle is the "good" guy in WoD. The progressives in WoD are just better at being two faced, selling you the hope and progress message while exploiting you behind your back. At the time Bloodlines 1 came about Republicans were just the party that had been in power and was getting away with a lot thanks to the War on Terror.

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Hell the conservative aligned Cam/Strauss ending is debatably the best ending for the PC, where you've proven your loyalty to the Cam, gained a powerful ally/mentor in Strauss, prevented a massive explosion that would draw needless attention to kindred, and sabotaged Smiling Jack's grand plan, to use us while looking like the good guy.

If the implication from Vein Pursuit that the Ankaran Sarcophagus still exists and is what the Anarchs were transporting to Seattle, the Cam ending might actually be the canon, given there is no way that thing was surviving the explosion and fall from the tower, and Beckett wouldn't have been fooled by a modern reproduction.