Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2

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Next Bloodlines 2 developer is gonna be either Bethesda or Obsidian, i'm calling it now!
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Hao Zhao Jul 16, 2021 @ 6:22am 
There are so many bad faith liars around here that make things up for attention. The only way to deal with them is to call them out on being factually incorrect and show evidence to establish the actual truth.

Once you show evidence of the truth, they throw up their arms and have a meltdown, every time, without fail.
J4MESOX4D Jul 16, 2021 @ 6:23am 
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
There are so many bad faith liars around here that make things up for attention. The only way to deal with them is to call them out on being factually incorrect and show evidence to establish the actual truth.

Once you show evidence of the truth, they throw up their arms and have a meltdown, every time, without fail.
That's factually IncorREKT.
ofcthatwaslag (Banned) Jul 16, 2021 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
There are so many bad faith liars around here that make things up for attention. The only way to deal with them is to call them out on being factually incorrect and show evidence to establish the actual truth.

Once you show evidence of the truth, they throw up their arms and have a meltdown, every time, without fail.
That's factually IncorREKT.

Posting like this doesn't make any this less embarrassing for you, just so you know.
J4MESOX4D Jul 16, 2021 @ 6:57am 
Originally posted by ofcthatwaslag:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
That's factually IncorREKT.

Posting like this doesn't make any this less embarrassing for you, just so you know.
No different to what he's saying without the extended drivel. He has a reputation for saying 'you don't know what you're talking about' or 'factually wrong' to everyone who provides any evidence so he can then provide his own which is exactly the same. Obviously has some sort of validation and attention issues but that's no way to speak to others in the community.

Probably another one of Tencent's bots anyway.
Hao Zhao Jul 16, 2021 @ 7:05am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by ofcthatwaslag:

Posting like this doesn't make any this less embarrassing for you, just so you know.
No different to what he's saying without the extended drivel. He has a reputation for saying 'you don't know what you're talking about' or 'factually wrong' to everyone who provides any evidence so he can then provide his own which is exactly the same. Obviously has some sort of validation and attention issues but that's no way to speak to others in the community.

Probably another one of Tencent's bots anyway.
Factually incorrect. i am constant correcting people who don't post any evidence for anything. I'm the only one who posts evidence around here.

Now you're further humiliating yourself by trying to start a conspiracy theory. Yeah, I'm sure Tencent has nothing better to do than to hang out on the Bloodlines 2 Steam forum and point out that your factually incorrect claims. Whatever gets you through the day. LOL
J4MESOX4D Jul 16, 2021 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
No different to what he's saying without the extended drivel. He has a reputation for saying 'you don't know what you're talking about' or 'factually wrong' to everyone who provides any evidence so he can then provide his own which is exactly the same. Obviously has some sort of validation and attention issues but that's no way to speak to others in the community.

Probably another one of Tencent's bots anyway.
Factually incorrect. i am constant correcting people who don't post any evidence for anything. I'm the only one who posts evidence around here.

Now you're further humiliating yourself by trying to start a conspiracy theory. Yeah, I'm sure Tencent has nothing better to do than to hang out on the Bloodlines 2 Steam forum and point out that your factually incorrect claims. Whatever gets you through the day. LOL
What a busybody and what a miserable life you must lead:lunar2019laughingpig:

People that post their opinions, you tell them they are wrong and others who post correct information, you also say they are wrong and post a link as your own evidence with information providing the original poster was correct!?

This is not normal behaviour. There's enough opinion-swinging pro-Tencent bots floating in the PUBG forums and you have it down to a tee so forgive my suspicions:lunar2019grinningpig:
Hao Zhao Jul 16, 2021 @ 7:18am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
Factually incorrect. i am constant correcting people who don't post any evidence for anything. I'm the only one who posts evidence around here.

Now you're further humiliating yourself by trying to start a conspiracy theory. Yeah, I'm sure Tencent has nothing better to do than to hang out on the Bloodlines 2 Steam forum and point out that your factually incorrect claims. Whatever gets you through the day. LOL
What a busybody and what a miserable life you must lead:lunar2019laughingpig:

People that post their opinions, you tell them they are wrong and others who post correct information, you also say they are wrong and post a link as your own evidence with information providing the original poster was correct!?

This is not normal behaviour. There's enough opinion-swinging pro-Tencent bots floating in the PUBG forums and you have it down to a tee so forgive my suspicions:lunar2019grinningpig:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I am quite content. You're the one angrily lashing out at me. :)

Opinions and facts are separate things. It would be like trying to say 2 + 2 = 5 and then when corrected you try "it's just my opinion." If your information is so correct, then you should all be able to show me evidence that it is so correct. You can't because you make it up as you go along.

You're resorting to silly conspiracy theories because you need some excuse to discredit me as you can't actually post any evidence that anything I say about Bloodlines 2 is wrong. You know, unlike me, who posted evidence showing you were wrong which directly caused you to meltdown and just start making the same post over and over again.
J4MESOX4D Jul 16, 2021 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
What a busybody and what a miserable life you must lead:lunar2019laughingpig:

People that post their opinions, you tell them they are wrong and others who post correct information, you also say they are wrong and post a link as your own evidence with information providing the original poster was correct!?

This is not normal behaviour. There's enough opinion-swinging pro-Tencent bots floating in the PUBG forums and you have it down to a tee so forgive my suspicions:lunar2019grinningpig:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I am quite content. You're the one angrily lashing out at me. :)

Opinions and facts are separate things. It would be like trying to say 2 + 2 = 5 and then when corrected you try "it's just my opinion." If your information is so correct, then you should all be able to show me evidence that it is so correct. You can't because you make it up as you go along.

You're resorting to silly conspiracy theories because you need some excuse to discredit me as you can't actually post any evidence that anything I say about Bloodlines 2 is wrong. You know, unlike me, who posted evidence showing you were wrong which directly caused you to meltdown and just start making the same post over and over again.
More links lol! Can't provide anything factual or form an opinion so has to resort to spamming links from Google searches.

The only time you speak for yourself, it's nauseating toxicity and quite possibly the most moronic and disgusting attitude I have ever seen online.

Get some people skills dude and instead of trying to seek validation by link posting, why not try and communicate with others in normal way with basic people skills?
Hao Zhao Jul 16, 2021 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

I am quite content. You're the one angrily lashing out at me. :)

Opinions and facts are separate things. It would be like trying to say 2 + 2 = 5 and then when corrected you try "it's just my opinion." If your information is so correct, then you should all be able to show me evidence that it is so correct. You can't because you make it up as you go along.

You're resorting to silly conspiracy theories because you need some excuse to discredit me as you can't actually post any evidence that anything I say about Bloodlines 2 is wrong. You know, unlike me, who posted evidence showing you were wrong which directly caused you to meltdown and just start making the same post over and over again.
More links lol! Can't provide anything factual or form an opinion so has to resort to spamming links from Google searches.

The only time you speak for yourself, it's nauseating toxicity and quite possibly the most moronic and disgusting attitude I have ever seen online.

Get some people skills dude and instead of trying to seek validation by link posting, why not try and communicate with others in normal way with basic people skills?
You keep mentioning google like it's some kind of zinger. Was I supposed to go to every single website and search through an endless number of articles, individually? Google is a powerful search engine that the entire world uses, every day. The fact that I used google to prove you wrong, doesn't make you less wrong. What kind of ridiculous damage control is this? LOL

I linked you to Brian Mitsoda right out telling you that you are wrong. Every single time you are asked to provide evidence for anything you claim, including your conspiracy theories, you just get emotional and start insulting me. This time is no different. The psychological projection here is amazing. You lash out and insult me for daring to prove you wrong and then you accuse me of being toxic, moronic, and disgusting. Get a hold of yourself.
J4MESOX4D Jul 16, 2021 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
More links lol! Can't provide anything factual or form an opinion so has to resort to spamming links from Google searches.

The only time you speak for yourself, it's nauseating toxicity and quite possibly the most moronic and disgusting attitude I have ever seen online.

Get some people skills dude and instead of trying to seek validation by link posting, why not try and communicate with others in normal way with basic people skills?
You keep mentioning google like it's some kind of zinger. Was I supposed to go to every single website and search through an endless number of articles, individually? Google is a powerful search engine that the entire world uses, every day. The fact that I used google to prove you wrong, doesn't make you less wrong. What kind of ridiculous damage control is this? LOL

I linked you to Brian Mitsoda right out telling you that you are wrong. Every single time you are asked to provide evidence for anything you claim, including your conspiracy theories, you just get emotional and start insulting me. This time is no different. The psychological projection here is amazing. You lash out and insult me for daring to prove you wrong and then you accuse me of being toxic, moronic, and disgusting. Get a hold of yourself.
You haven't proved me wrong at all. You misinterpreted something I said and then went on this insane crusade around the houses rather than hold your hands up and say you were mistaken by jumping in too quick.

Perhaps dial down your incredibly obnoxious, arrogant and angry attitude and then you wont force yourself into this kind of situation all the time.
Hao Zhao Jul 16, 2021 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by Hao Zhao:
You keep mentioning google like it's some kind of zinger. Was I supposed to go to every single website and search through an endless number of articles, individually? Google is a powerful search engine that the entire world uses, every day. The fact that I used google to prove you wrong, doesn't make you less wrong. What kind of ridiculous damage control is this? LOL

I linked you to Brian Mitsoda right out telling you that you are wrong. Every single time you are asked to provide evidence for anything you claim, including your conspiracy theories, you just get emotional and start insulting me. This time is no different. The psychological projection here is amazing. You lash out and insult me for daring to prove you wrong and then you accuse me of being toxic, moronic, and disgusting. Get a hold of yourself.
You haven't proved me wrong at all. You misinterpreted something I said and then went on this insane crusade around the houses rather than hold your hands up and say you were mistaken by jumping in too quick.

Perhaps dial down your incredibly obnoxious, arrogant and angry attitude and then you wont force yourself into this kind of situation all the time.
More projection! Someone told you that you were wrong and your response was to spend hours making excuses and throwing tantrums. I'm not the one who has gone berserk with personal attacks and insults. Only you have done this.

You were proven wrong, with links, and then you spent hours running damage control. How embarrassing. You're incapable of proving anything you've claimed, including your silly conspiracies and I accept your surrender. Let me know if you need any more fact checking done on your posts. ;)
stmpunk Jul 16, 2021 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:
Originally posted by Huginn.ok.Muninn:
Oh, than we are screwed
Paradox's options are very limited - either they use one of their own existing in-house studios or they acquire one that is unattached and available for work. Some people in this thread think they can still go out and get Bethesda, Obsidian and inXile to make the game despite all development houses being owned by Microsoft. They don't seem to get that other developer's publishers aren't going to allow devs to go and work for rival publishers and their respective games/franchises. This is why Paradox ended up having to recruit the very unproven and inexperienced Hardsuit Labs and even then, the studio had to make several external appointments to make the numbers up which caused internal conflict.

Paradox apparently have someone lined up and working on the game but they have yet to make any announcement. I'm surprised they didn't offload the licence in the end because they don't have the resources or desire for the brand and they shouldn't have taken it on in the first place especially when they had to recruit an available studio on the outside. At this rate, square one will be an improvement.
I agree, but on your second paragraph you are wrong, PDX bought White Wolf (creator and owner of the PnP World of Darkness), so...
As for the other long discussion with others, they are right. In my perspective it was a bad business decision and it's highly likely HSL approached them for the game as ways of seizing an "golden opportunity", I still think the motivation there was both vanity by the heads of HSL and a bit of greed, everybody knows the market for VTMB is rich, the original dev died out, and the talent for what it was mostly known for (writing) was available, so they hired the writers (with no intent of keeping them, probably due to vanity), and through that convinced PDX, than they fired the talent, a bit later they themselves were "fired", I wonder why (sarcasm intensifies)

It was a bad decision from the start, the first prototype for the game (which we had some access to) was already really really bad, the website progression pertaining it (show-case of features / classes / etc) raised a giant's red flag towards the quality of the game, than we had the trailers which were somewhat a final nail in the coffin (for quality, for us costumers, fans of the franchise), not much later there was the whole shbang with the writer (which was the sole reason PDX accepted their pitch), so I think we can all see what happened, even though we do not have full access to said information on a more open dialogue... I just hope PDX fixed the wrongings from HSL for the new dev, or we are risking getting stuck with a really poor sequel for VTMB, not the end of the world IF the franchise keeps getting new major games being made (maybe some really great VTMB3 in the distant future), but as for this game I think it's already dead, a Frankenstein project so to speak, is there hope? Certainly! But realistically speaking there isn't much that can be done to fix what already begun badly, maybe VTMB2 comes as a sub-par mediocre game, maybe it's enough to feed our silly goth cravings, maybe not, as for a lesson I took from my analytic capabilities over the years is that I'll probably be disappointed if I don't look at it as already being ruined for I rarely (if ever, I think ever, can't remember) am wrong about my predictions on games. Maybe because I have a degree in Game Development and am a thorough student of tendencies (futurology as called in many EU countries), maybe because I'm just lucky at guessing, no matter, it's just that the only way to vent this particular frustration is talking about it here, where it's somewhat relevant to do so.
Last edited by stmpunk; Jul 16, 2021 @ 12:07pm
Joido Jul 17, 2021 @ 3:02am 
I have read the article saying how Mitsoda and Cluney approached Paradox with their idea, there was no HSL in the picture.
Sild Jul 17, 2021 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Joido Noah:
I have read the article saying how Mitsoda and Cluney approached Paradox with their idea, there was no HSL in the picture.

Err.. what? Cluney was working for HSL, and did a prototype of the game toghether with Mitsonda which they then pitched to PDX. PDX investement in HSL happened only after they saw and liked the presentation. Not before.
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