Are there any vampires as strong as Alucard in the VTM world

[Sammy]

??

[Castyles]

Very old vampires, in general, are really strong and know lots of abilities. Like, you know, Dracula.

[Anvos]

Hard to say exactly since Alucard is closer to a Demonic Vampire.

Caine and Lillith definitely, and Caine even comes with the bonus that if he stops existing for a reason other than he repents or walks into the sun accepting he's an irredeemable monster, the person who kills him would attract the wrath of GOD.

3rd Gens the answer would be probably, as the top tier powers of disciplines are just ridiculous.

Methuselahs probably not but he'd at least have to get semi serious

[Selvokaz]

which Alucard are you comparing the VtM vampires too? If you mean Hellsing Alucard im not sure, as im not 100% familiar with all the things that Alucard can do, if you mean from castlevania the netflix adaptation, then most vampires could match his strength and speed fairly easily i would assume, his more unique abilities like shapeshifting into a Wolf might be best lift to specific clans like Gangrel.

[Castyles]

Originally posted by Selvokaz:

which Alucard are you comparing the VtM vampires too? If you mean Hellsing Alucard im not sure, as im not 100% familiar with all the things that Alucard can do, if you mean from castlevania the netflix adaptation, then most vampires could match his strength and speed fairly easily i would assume, his more unique abilities like shapeshifting into a Wolf might be best lift to specific clans like Gangrel.

Bram Stoker's Dracula shapeshifts into different animals and mist - that was the inspiration for Konami's Castlevania Alucard - and he's no Gangrel. He's a Tzimisce - with a bit of Toreador personality thrown into the mix.

Bela Lugosi's a Toreador through and through though.

Anyway. Any vampire can learn any discipline.

[Selvokaz]

im aware of all this yes, but i was only asking a question to the thread author

[Sammy]

Originally posted by Selvokaz:

im aware of all this yes, but i was only asking a question to the thread author

I'm referring to the Alucard from the manga/anime Hellsing.

[Lλmbdλ]

Hmmmm
3rd generations and old 4th generations probably can be at this level of power, but to see that in game is probably not really fun, except if it's a big world event like Week of Nightmares
But big world event also say : taking the point of vue and reactions of every others supernatural races of the WoD

So, not fun instead it's well done

Why this questions ?

[Muscarine]

It's hard to answer, it's like asking who's stronger between Goku or Superman, these are universes with a different set of rules

[opqrrr3]

Some third generation can devour an entire city. And they can probably survive even if someone totally destroy their body.

The first vampire is much stronger than third generation vampires.

[Mars]

While I'm not certain of V5's playing field, I have a better grasp of V20 or 3rd Edition. The short answer would ultimately be yes. There are Vampires on Alucard's level - as well as above. Most of what I've seen Alucard do (keep in mind I didn't watch Hellsing: Ultimate) I could see a 5th or 6th Gen pulling off with flair.

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

No, the power gap between Goku and Superman is blatantly obvious. Also, there are tons of different iterations of Superman thanks to elseworld stories and reboots, while only 1 known version of Goku.

There's 2 in established media. GT Goku and Super Goku.

[Mars]

I'm guessing that must've been from Ultimate?

Still that puts him in par with an Antediluvian. There's all sorts of vague wacky Apocrypha of them secretly cheating death.

So I mean... the answer to the original is still yes.

Yes, OP. There are all powerful vampires in this universe.

[Mars]

Yeah, we know.

[yannypr]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Now, he doesn't need those souls to survive, he just needs to remain self aware.

Perhaps Malkav could wreck him. Also, if it's possible for Alucard to willingly and intentionally choose to lose self-awareness, then I suppose a sufficiently powerful Dominate command could indirectly kill him.

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

As I said before, the clan founder of the Tzimisce has grown to the size of a city (New York City, to be exact)...

Is this canonical fact or a kindred myth?

[Muscarine]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

No, the power gap between Goku and Superman is blatantly obvious. Also, there are tons of different iterations of Superman thanks to elseworld stories and reboots, while only 1 known version of Goku.

That's exactly what I'm saying, there's no reasonable comparison possible because both exist within different rules, which also independently bend relatively to plot or crossover requirements.

It's an exercise in futility which always devolves into "X can do a+b+c" "yes but Y did d+e+f", the comparison is abstruse because even the original characters themselves don't obey each others ruleset, they don't even obey their own to begin with.
Anyone can spend hours comparing both but that's completely missing the different frame of reference.

It's like comparing Doomguy with Samus or idk, 2B and Motoko, Mario and Wanda, w/e
They're entities in a self contained universe, it's a fun thing to do but ultimately comparisons are irrelevant

[Boneyard Bob]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Antedeluvians are referred to as "blood gods" for a reason. As I said before, the clan founder of the Tzimisce has grown to the size of a city (New York City, to be exact) and is so skilled with Vicissitude, that he can psychically flesh craft you from anywhere on the planet!

Does he take requests? Like, can he... um... make a man more well endowed?

Asking for a friend.