Curious detail in system requirements TSW v. TS

[JJTimothy]

I have Train Simulator and I love it to bits but I'm thinking of taking the plunge and buying TSW- I've got the hardware and, after Christmas and given the sale, I've also got the money which makes a change. Having a look at the Store page though I noticed something odd: 40GB of storage is recommended for TS. For TSW... 20GB Not a typo'- that's forty and twenty.

I've always imagined that the TS recommendation was to leave some room for extra routes- IIRC the figure used to be 6GB and my TS install is barely 40GB now with maybe 20 routes including Workshop stuff. There's well over 100GB of free space on my Windows drive yet but, out of curiosity, is that 20GB optimistic, realistic or generous?

[Echo Kilo]

For what it's worth, my TSW installation is currently taking up 77GB. I have TSW2020 base package (not Digital Deluxe one) + West Somerset and East Coastway routes, as well as Class 33 and BR Heavy Freight loco packs on top of it.

When looking at the files on disk, it would seem that the base TSW2020 setup will take around 62GB, as the files for the extra DLC I have purchased add up to only 15GB or so.

The 20GB is about right for the bare bones TSW which comes with the Sand Patch Grade (CSX Heavy Haul) route only.

[Rudolf Jan]

Both games require a lot of storage once you buy a number of DLC. Dot not take this seriously. I am a fairly fanatic player and I have a 500Gb SSD for this game. Als a start, 100Gb is enough ...

[JJTimothy]

Thank you guys. Looks like "optimistic" doesn't really cover it. I've got about 117GB free on a 220GB system drive and, given that a certain percentage of free space is recommended, an upgrade may be in order... on a system I got earlier this year. Aiwa!

Perhaps it could go on the second drive- a 2TB Barracuda so hardly slow. Does TSW cope better with storage latency than TS? Pausing every so often to load the next stretch of scenery would get old fast but taking a few extra seconds to get started I can cope with.

[Der Lokomotivführer]

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[Phase3]

JJTimothy
My install of TSW with the original CSX and all of the UK stuff is 70GB, and it will grow exponentially especially if the editor makes an appearance. My TS2020 approaches 400+GB.
I would never install any game on a system drive - far better to use a separate drive if you can. SSD's are the way to even the slowest SSD is probably 40 x faster in random reads than a spinner. If you have a USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C connector (should be on most modern mobos) then using an external SSD would be a better option. (Bandwidth 10Gb/sec vs 6GB/sec for internal SATA). Lots of choices.

[Darthtool]

my Install is over 100gb now with all but 2 the routes installed.

[JJTimothy]

Thank you for your observations and thoughts everyone.

Originally posted by Echo Kilo:

For what it's worth, my TSW installation is currently taking up 77GB.

Originally posted by Rudolf Jan:

Als a start, 100Gb is enough ...

Originally posted by Phase3:

My install of TSW with the original CSX and all of the UK stuff is 70GB, and it will grow exponentially especially if the editor makes an appearance.

Originally posted by Darthtool:

my Install is over 100gb now with all but 2 the routes installed.

Looks like I'd be okay to get TSW now but an extra (bigger) SSD just for trains would be a good idea. Well there's plenty of room in the case. There'll be a slot on the motherboard for an NVE one come to that.

Originally posted by Echo Kilo:

The 20GB is about right for the bare bones TSW which comes with the Sand Patch Grade (CSX Heavy Haul) route only.

TSW still includes CSX then does it? I thought as much since it's in the manual but there's no mention of it at all in the store blurb.

Originally posted by EZGAMER:

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[Darthtool]

remember if you run more than one M2 SSd, the bandwidth will be reduced to 50% on both when running concurrently as per intel/amd chipset limits. better to go M2 for OS and crital apps and SATA based ssds for everything else, even basic Sata SSD's are lightning compared to any mechanical HDD.

[Stexred]

i use 2 m2 ssd that way still fast enough for me :)

[Metallos]

You see the difference only in benchmark results, not in daily "work".
Better not to wank on length of benchmark bars... ;-)

[Stexred]

i know i already checked on that :)

[JJTimothy]

Originally posted by Darthtool:

remember if you run more than one M2 SSd, the bandwidth will be reduced to 50% on both when running concurrently as per intel/amd chipset limits. better to go M2 for OS and crital apps and SATA based ssds for everything else, even basic Sata SSD's are lightning compared to any mechanical HDD.

My system drive is an SATA SSD so I gather they shouldn't trip over each other. While my PC will be middling by some standards it's far faster than anything else I've ever used so I'm pretty happy with it. Just sounds like it could use more SSD storage for trains.

[Stexred]

current install size of tsw 149 gigabytes (all dlc)