Difference between this and Train Simulator?

[Bad Whippet]

I've been running Train Simulator in all its forms for over a decade now and have a ton of DLC for it. I've only just started noticing these TSW games and so I have a few questions I couldn't find the answers for in the forum...

1. Does this have any compatibility with Train Simulator (ie can add-ons from TS2019 be used in TSW?)
2. Is TSW a better game?
3. The game has a fairly negative review bias - but a lot of the negative reviews don't really say why it's so apparently bad - is it bad?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[Sharpey™]

1. No, 2 different simulations.

2. No IMO - Visually yes it looks better than TS19 but it still has a long way to catch up to TS19 in terms of content, steam workshop, route editor, scenario editor, raildriver and VR support etc etc

3. I don't think TSW is bad but I don't think it's worth the full price, it's much better on sale. I cant speak on the behalf of others when it comes to negative reviews but a lot of it's due to DTG not listening to the community when it comes to fixing simple bugs, instead releasing new DLC. To DTG's credit though a lot of the initial release issues have been resolved. Also like I mentioned in point 2, a lot of the same features from TS19 are still missing from TSW.

[dis0nored]

There's a lot more in depth interaction in TSW, i didn't find this in TS2019. You get to interact with alot more things and do more hands on stuff like in CSX, you have to manually switch tracks to where you need to go. Locomotives are more advanced and feel it. You don't fall into the swamp of DLC like you do with TS2019. By swamp meaning there's over 2 grand worth of DLC. TSW feel alot more like a training resource because I learn alot more. The only thing you gotta keep in mind is system requirements because some DLC like GWR or Trans Penny DLC's are very demanding, I can't run trans penny except the tutorials.

[Rudolf Jan]

1. No TSW is a complete new development
2. Not yet. It has stunning graphics, but not yet content editing tools. But, it is very promising. The price you pay is that you need a high end game computer. You can play on XBOX or PS4, but content creation tools will only be available for the PC edition.
3. Not really. You can see it has a steep learning curve for the developers, but gradually the quality of add-ons is increasing. I expect spectacular results once we can create our own content.

[Darklord]

1. No as above already said.
2. IMO yes. It is more immersive and has better graphics AND (most important) much better performance.
3. No. I like it much more then TS2019, which is also not bad.

Comparing the bugs, I would say TSW is more bug free then TS.

[Purno]

Originally posted by Bad Whippet:

2. Is TSW a better game?

Not sure, but TSW is getting better over time, while TS pretty much reached the ceiling of what it can do. TS still has a lot more content available though, and it'll take years for TSW to catch up to that.

3. The game has a fairly negative review bias - but a lot of the negative reviews don't really say why it's so apparently bad - is it bad?

TS has pretty bad reviews as well, but most complains about the pricing policy. Both TS and TSW have their bugs, but in my experience TSW is a lot more stable.

[Bad Whippet]

Thanks hugely everyone for your thoughts. I think I'll give it a go when I can afford to. It certainly looks nice; it was just all the bad reviews being a bit off-putting.

[hgnkater]

Likewise I am considering buying the new TSW with a new laptop. Though they say they don't support laptops, I've never had a problem running it on a fast laptop. The latest RTX 2070 (8GB) GPU for laptops has just been released which should nail it. But the killer for me is the lack of train AI traffic. Just saw a video of the GWR and there were like about 8 trains in a 30 minute trip from Paddington to Reading, which even in the middle of the night is not realistic. The real timetable advertised seems a bit misleading. The lack of traffic was the problem with the old train sim for me which meant customising with the editor which was a pretty painful experience with the "fat controller." Took me years to realise that the crash to desktop in the editor is a memory problem. If you open the editor more than a few times in one session it will crash. Not sure I will invest in TSW.

[Metallos]

Most laptops have only intregrated graphics or small GPUs and those are too low. "Gaming Notebooks" have more powerful hardware and the heavier ones a better cooling so the hardware doesn't get too hot.

Which train simulator is the right for you depends on your priorities, if you want a console-style arcade game and are a "couch potato" (except KB+mouse TSW supports only Xbox gamepad), then TSW is the right for you. If you want a trainsim with better realism or want to use Raildriver, then even the old MSTS (or OpenRails, which does run better on modern hardware and uses MSTS addons) or, if you don't mind US freight trains only, Run8 would be better for you.

TS20xx has frustrated me with failed missions due to not halting on invisible ghost stations and other bugs. Bugfixing and Dovetail Games are different worlds...

[lfeickert]

Originally posted by Metallos:

Most laptops have only intregrated graphics or small GPUs and those are too low. "Gaming Notebooks" have more powerful hardware and the heavier .... Bugfixing and Dovetail Games are different worlds...

In all my study and casual reading of the posts here, I do believe that the above statement is the only one I've ever encountered where phrases like "Bug fixing" and "Dovetail Games" have collided in the same sentence...

[GawR]

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