Red Signal Bug (Timetable Mode)

[♣ Luke ♣]

I am doing the 12:30 Minehead service. I was 4 minutes too late at Blue Anchor and for about 20 minutes i have a red signal in front of me. However the track until Williton is clear and the other Class47 waits in Williton for my arrival and has a red signal too. The Junction in front of me is adjusted against my direction.

So you have to be on time on this track, or you get stuck?

Picture:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1408901512

[♣ Luke ♣]

Originally posted by MugHug:

Originally posted by Speedy:

If it was a game error we would ALL experience it the fact we don’t proved otherwise

WRONG!!!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And all the experience from my years working in database development (coding) and IT backs me up.

What is your professional experience in programming?

If you mean my post (you quoted Speedy instead):

I used the word Mutual Exclusion as a solution for this problem, however the
conditions for it are not satisfied:

If you consider the part of the track, which has only one track for both directions (like in WSR), as critical section, then you have two entry points on both sides controlled by the signals. The switches and the status of the critical section (clear/occupied) controll the signal. There can only be one train in the critical section. So a signal is green if and only there is no train in the critical section and the switch is in the right direction. The issue is that the signals respect train positioning, but the switches don´t. However the signal status depends on the switch in front of it. This can create a Deadlock, if two trains are trying to enter the critical section at the same time. The script i already mentioned before is the solution of the producer DTG, but only works when arriving in time. Otherwise the switch (which will not respect my position on track) will change direction for the train waiting on the other end, BEFORE I passed the switch. So I can´t drive with train (A) because of the switch, which is set for train B and causes a red signal for me, but train (B) can´t drive because of the red signal which waits for my arrivial (the signal for train (B) is red because it respects my position and wants me to continue, following to the script).

[Speedy]

Oh yes mudhug I am really wrong thats why I managed to get all achievements on a single trip and have completed the included scenarios and about 80 percent of services Yes that means I must be wrong


Do you even own the West Somerset route mudhug

[Speedy]

Luke just ignore him he is a known troll on this forum and the TS forum the more you reply the more of a kick he gets out of it just report his posts and move along the admin will deal with him

[♣ Luke ♣]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Luke just ignore him he is a known troll on this forum and the TS forum the more you reply the more of a kick he gets out of it just report his posts and move along the admin will deal with him

You are the troll sir. Stop trolling, thank you.


Start the Class 47 12:30 Minehead service. Arrive about 5-10 minutes too late at Blue Anchor.
Now tell me what you see, you can experience the bug yourself.

[Metallos]

Originally posted by ♣ Luke ♣:

If you mean my post (you quoted Speedy instead)

I think he meaned Speedy and not you. If you (just think you are MudHug) click on quote (posting from Speedy) and the quoted message contains a quote (from you / Luke), it (quote from Luke) will get into the message you write.

[MugHug]

Originally posted by ♣ Luke ♣:

Originally posted by MugHug:

WRONG!!!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about.

And all the experience from my years working in database development (coding) and IT backs me up.

What is your professional experience in programming?

If you mean my post (you quoted Speedy instead):

I used the word Mutual Exclusion as a solution for this problem, however the
conditions for it are not satisfied:

If you consider the part of the track, which has only one track for both directions (like in WSR), as critical section, then you have two entry points on both sides controlled by the signals. The switches and the status of the critical section (clear/occupied) controll the signal. There can only be one train in the critical section. So a signal is green if and only there is no train in the critical section and the switch is in the right direction. The issue is that the signals respect train positioning, but the switches don´t. However the signal status depends on the switch in front of it. This can create a Deadlock, if two trains are trying to enter the critical section at the same time. The script i already mentioned before is the solution of the producer DTG, but only works when arriving in time. Otherwise the switch (which will not respect my position on track) will change direction for the train waiting on the other end, BEFORE I passed the switch. So I can´t drive with train (A) because of the switch, which is set for train B and causes a red signal for me, but train (B) can´t drive because of the red signal which waits for my arrivial (the signal for train (B) is red because it respects my position and wants me to continue, following to the script).

No, the post was addressed to Speedy and meant for Speedy.

You were making hell of a lot more sense then Speedy.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by ♣ Luke ♣:

Originally posted by Speedy:

Luke just ignore him he is a known troll on this forum and the TS forum the more you reply the more of a kick he gets out of it just report his posts and move along the admin will deal with him

You are the troll sir. Stop trolling, thank you.


Start the Class 47 12:30 Minehead service. Arrive about 5-10 minutes too late at Blue Anchor.
Now tell me what you see, you can experience the bug yourself.

Yes that’s right I am a troll because it don’t agree with your comment

FYI I ran the service you mentioned arrived 10 late as you requested and managed to arrive and finish

Restarted this time I have it 20 minutes again no issues

[MugHug]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Oh yes mudhug I am really wrong thats why I managed to get all achievements on a single trip and have completed the included scenarios and about 80 percent of services Yes that means I must be wrong


Do you even own the West Somerset route mudhug

How old are you?

Seriously, because I am stunned at the logic behind your thinking and statements.

[Metallos]

So fast? Makes me wonder...

[Speedy]

Originally posted by MugHug:

Originally posted by Speedy:

Oh yes mudhug I am really wrong thats why I managed to get all achievements on a single trip and have completed the included scenarios and about 80 percent of services Yes that means I must be wrong


Do you even own the West Somerset route mudhug

How old are you?

Seriously, because I am stunned at the logic behind your thinking and statements.

Do you own West Somerset ?

[MugHug]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Originally posted by MugHug:

How old are you?

Seriously, because I am stunned at the logic behind your thinking and statements.

Do you own West Somerset ?

You have to be really young. It is the only explanation that makes sense.

Maybe we should take that into consideration when you post and treat them as such.

[Speedy]

Originally posted by MugHug:

Originally posted by Speedy:

Do you own West Somerset ?

You have to be really young. It is the only explanation that makes sense.

Maybe we should take that into consideration when you post and treat them as such.

So that is two times you failed to answer the question so you are throw by attacks at people who actually own the route when you don’t.
Funny that

[MugHug]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Originally posted by MugHug:

You have to be really young. It is the only explanation that makes sense.

Maybe we should take that into consideration when you post and treat them as such.

So that is two times you failed to answer the question so you are throw by attacks at people who actually own the route when you don’t.
Funny that

On which of my Steam accounts?

And if you maybe say 'please' I may answer. :)

[♣ Luke ♣]

Originally posted by Legatus:

Back on topic:

OP, I know what you are talking about. I experienced this exact same bug in the first NEC tutorial route.

Once I arrive at my home I'll test one of your recommended routes to see if I still have that same bug too.

Thank you.

[♣ Luke ♣]

Originally posted by Speedy:

Originally posted by MugHug:

How old are you?

Seriously, because I am stunned at the logic behind your thinking and statements.

Do you own West Somerset ?

If you would read my or others posts, you would know that the issue occurs on more than one map/mode. So nobody needs to own a specific DLC to experience this bug or to post a statement.