Train Sim World® 2020

Train Sim World® 2020

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BambinoTech Mar 17, 2017 @ 10:40am
TSW FAILED To Improve Graphics Performance
I've been a TS player since almost the start and have purchased most releases. As 1080p/60hz monitors became more affordable of the past few years most game devs took the initative to evolve designs so they perform well at higher FPS rates. Not sure DTG has done this. Its pretty clear that TSW has the same fundmental graphic design issues as previous releases. I have a i7 6700 32GB SSD with GTX 1070 getting 25-30 fps in high graphcis settings. It's unacceptable in today's gaming world. DTG has a big hill to climb here. And the answer from support can't be "run it in lower graphics mode at 720p".. not when your paying $40 for one route. Sorry guys, you failed.
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River2003 Mar 18, 2017 @ 8:53am 
why did it failed.
Chunky Moe Mar 18, 2017 @ 9:29am 
Originally posted by River2003:
why did it failed.

He just said. When you have to run a modern game at lower res just to get acceptable framerates when you clearly have recommended specs, then you failed.
Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Originally posted by WoolyBug:
Originally posted by River2003:
why did it failed.

He just said. When you have to run a modern game at lower res just to get acceptable framerates when you clearly have recommended specs, then you failed.
Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Oh, snap!

Come on man. Keep it polite.
gwgardner Mar 18, 2017 @ 9:58am 
I have a similar system, I7 with Nvidia 1060, albeit with a bigger SSD drive. I also generally get 30 FPS, and the graphics settings are all maxed out. 1920x1080. Smooth running all the way, Just incredible visuals.

Why is 30 FPS unacceptible. It's faster than the human eye can detect, and isn't it the general standared for theaters?

My TSW is on my SSD. Surely that makes a difference.

The game is three days out. Give it some time. I got into Railworks when it was first released, and it has come a long way through the years. So will TSW.
They've already had several years and several months in Beta. They released it and it isn't ready for release.

How much time should we give it? Until we can't ask for a refund..?
GeneralGeldenhuys Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by thebigstickihityouwith:
They've already had several years and several months in Beta. They released it and it isn't ready for release.

How much time should we give it? Until we can't ask for a refund..?

You mean, don't buy the game? Simple.
JETTLAGG Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by gwgardner:
I have a similar system, I7 with Nvidia 1060, albeit with a bigger SSD drive. I also generally get 30 FPS, and the graphics settings are all maxed out. 1920x1080. Smooth running all the way, Just incredible visuals.

Why is 30 FPS unacceptible. It's faster than the human eye can detect, and isn't it the general standared for theaters?

My TSW is on my SSD. Surely that makes a difference.

The game is three days out. Give it some time. I got into Railworks when it was first released, and it has come a long way through the years. So will TSW.

My thoughts exactly. I'm averaging 30 to mid 30's while playing and it works fine.. It's a fourty dollar game people.
MugHug Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:31am 
The same old record again!! - 'bursting bladder pre-order syndrome' impulse buyers upset again.

I waited until the game was released and I could read customer feedback.

In light of the reviews, etc. I went ahead and purchased TSW and to be honest so far, I am happy running it maxed out at 1080p (or higer) with no issues (i5-6600K and GTX970). It is not perfect but quite acceptable.

I have not even bothered to check my FPS because this is a train simulator and not a FPS shooter!! I have not checked my FPS because I am getting smooth gameplay.

With the developers promising to improve it over time I am content.

I just wonder how many moaning here were in 'bursting bladder' mode and instead of waiting to find out the initial reactions, etc. by customers, they had to spend daddy's money because it was burning a hole in their pocket. And now we have to put up with their crying on the forums.
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dhaluc Mar 18, 2017 @ 10:57am 
If the game can stay at 25 fps or higher it's OK for me .Like already said : 24 fps is the movie standard (or 25 fps for the digital version) so what? The problem is that many players stuck at 15 or 18 fps and that's too low for a normal vision experience..
MugHug Mar 18, 2017 @ 11:47am 
The OP has an i7-6700, 32GB RAM, SSD and a GTX 1070. He states he is getting 25-30 FPS on the HIGH graphcis settings.

I get smooth gameplay for this train simulator (this is not a FPS shooter), maxed out at 1080p or higher and as long as I get smooth gameplay I am not going the waste my time worrying about FPS. Even on my old i5-6600K, 16GB RAM, HD and GTX970 I find it quite acceptable.

TSW is a Simulator!!. TSW is being sold as a 'Simulator' more then a 'Game'. The term 'Simulator' is plastered all over the front page.

Getting 25-30 FPS In all my other simulators like PrePar3D, X-Plane 10/11, Run8, Steel Beasts Pro PE is considered good and quite acceptable by the vast majority of simulator nerds.

I fail to understand why TSW needs to operate at 60 FPS or whatever. Even in X-Plane 11 or PrePar3D (with ORBX) with low-flying aircraft traveling at high speed over the terrain, I find that 30-35 FPS updates the screen quite well and that plane's speed is 4-5 times that of a train in TSW.

Yes, it would be nice, but because of the nature of the simulator (not game) it does not need 60 FPS to perform smoothly. It may need refinements in other areas of the graphics like texture resolutions, LODs, tree details or the low detail on cars and house but it does not need 60 FPS as it's first priority.
Originally posted by MugHug:
I just wonder how many moaning here were in 'bursting bladder' mode and instead of waiting to find out the initial reactions, etc. by customers, they had to spend daddy's money because it was burning a hole in their pocket. And now we have to put up with their crying on the forums.

I spent my own money, cupcake.

Shock News: People expect something to be working when it gets released! Otherwise, what's the point of Beta testing?

Grow up. And if you don't want to hear people being annoyed at getting ripped off (again) then you know what to do, don't you, oh wise one?

~Quit reading the stuff that get's you fanbois so butthurt~
nh_lionheart Mar 18, 2017 @ 12:04pm 
I'm sure I have read somewhere that games and movies are different beasts when it comes to fps and should not really be compared....I might be wrong but I believe they have different requirements when it comes to framrate.
Last edited by nh_lionheart; Mar 18, 2017 @ 12:06pm
castrol Mar 18, 2017 @ 12:35pm 
Originally posted by thebigstickihityouwith:
Originally posted by WoolyBug:

He just said. When you have to run a modern game at lower res just to get acceptable framerates when you clearly have recommended specs, then you failed.
Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Oh, snap!

Come on man. Keep it polite.
lol i thought his reply was good.....and he was polite
I'm_Not_A_Robot Mar 18, 2017 @ 1:02pm 
+1 for this post and -1 for TSW
MugHug Mar 18, 2017 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by thebigstickihityouwith:
Originally posted by MugHug:
I just wonder how many moaning here were in 'bursting bladder' mode and instead of waiting to find out the initial reactions, etc. by customers, they had to spend daddy's money because it was burning a hole in their pocket. And now we have to put up with their crying on the forums.

I spent my own money, cupcake.

Shock News: People expect something to be working when it gets released! Otherwise, what's the point of Beta testing?

Grow up. And if you don't want to hear people being annoyed at getting ripped off (again) then you know what to do, don't you, oh wise one?

~Quit reading the stuff that get's you fanbois so butthurt~

So it does not work?

It may be unoptimized and have some bugs but that is not the same as 'People expect something to be working'.

There is a subtle but major difference between the facts and your description, Cupcake.

Less of the 'Alternative facts', please.
Last edited by MugHug; Mar 18, 2017 @ 3:18pm
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