How do I avoid having to play as a Communist ****hole country?

[Kiethoo]

Playing as HRE (minus Hungary and Croatia which I made puppets instead)
My Economy is Healthy but new lands in Italy and former austria are in bad shape and RNG ****ed me and Socialism popped up.

Spector starts right off at 34% finished with +4.1 from termoiling states
Also I failed to burn alive a vanguardist leader of the Pissant Folk IG.
so thats an extra +0.5
against my -4 from Police+Secret Police

I tried to increase welfare in the 5 states with Termoil (Austria, Istria, Slovakia ) + ( Zulu and Fang which arent incorperated)

I tried lowering taxes to make QOL increase but it didn't help.
I also removed taxes on Services.

I stopped trying to suppress the Folk, to use the extra 200 points to Violently supress the Zulu and Fang but it didn't seem to help at all either.

I really don't remember fighting Pre-Communism being this hard. Honestly If I could do It I would just have my Loyal Prussian Army just start shooting and burning Communists on sight.

[6ap6apblckaAa]

You mean your "The Spectre Haunting the World" JE is progressing? if you fail it nothing really bad happens, you won't convert to communism.

[endymionologist]

You didn't get hit by cruel RNG. As your pops ceased to be immiserated, they started to want things like respect and freedom and revenge on the people who immiserated them. That's a normal progression in the game, it's modeled on how humans work.
That journal event is much less interactive than it appears to be; if it opens with a rate that will fill the bar before it times out, it will fill the bar before it times out. You could try releasing as puppets everything that isn't a German Homeland, but I don't think it's important to do so.

The game almost never forces you into something you don't want, it just makes you stop changing things in the direction you want to change them.

[Kiethoo]

I don't want to have to constantly deal with Commies, and other Reds in my IGs,
All of my IG's need to be loyal to the Kaiser!

I don't want to deal with Commies until I unlock the Flamethrower tech !

[Spiky38]

The larp is on another level, or the guy is 12, anyway, you will have to either exile or treat your population well enough so they stay loyal to your regime.

[teron]

If you want to get rid of the risk of communism. You could suppress the IGs that have Vanguard/Communist leaders, or if they have events that give negative popularity select those.

Pass laws that reduce discrimination, since from memory literate discriminated pops will slowly start to radicalize. Which is an annoying mechanic when they are in a wealth state with good jobs.

If you are running Proportional Taxation then pass Graduated Taxation since it will reduce the income tax rate. Which means a lot more money for your lower and middle strata. Proportional taxation at the lowest tax level’s income tax is the same as Graduated Taxation medium tax.

Drive down the cost of food and other common goods that your pops consume.
Aim for high legitimacy governments for the monthly loyalists ticks.


Or you could go communist while still having free elections and passing Cooperative Ownership.

Cooperative Ownership fires all your capitalists and aristocrats (removing pop groups as they change jobs) and gives the building dividends to the workers of the buildings. Which skyrockets their SOL, generates a ton of loyalist and consumer demand.

Which can make newly acquired lands loose their radicals quickly, especially if you mass develop them.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3270072181

While this was from when the game first launched, back when Great Powers could puppet major powers. You can see average SOL 26.5, population of 475M which 265M loyalists and only 8M radicals. While having 9.1B due to my lower/middle strata’s massive size and insatiable demand for basically everything. Literally was invading places to build tea and coffee plantations. The plantation must grow....

With only Qing, India, Germany, Prusia and Austria being the remaining GP.

[John Hadley]

Its very hard to just create a large number of loyalists to get rid of all existing turmoil in a short period of time and its hard to raise your citizen's standard of living a large amount at the point this event happens unless you already knew the event was going to happen so you intentionally did not activate certain production methods that cause your population to start making a lot more money and you have a government that has 90%+ legitimacy.

[Damedius]

Originally posted by John Hadley:

Its very hard to just create a large number of loyalists to get rid of all existing turmoil in a short period of time and its hard to raise your citizen's standard of living a large amount at the point this event happens unless you already knew the event was going to happen so you intentionally did not activate certain production methods that cause your population to start making a lot more money and you have a government that has 90%+ legitimacy.

It depends who you start as. If you start as a stable nation in good shape and don't rock the boat, while maintaining high legitimacy. It's easy to deal with.

The problem is that most countries start in poor shape. When you try and fix things it's hard to control radicals if you can't keep high legitimacy. Then you end up with a situation where you need to either crush a revolution or pass laws in order to get rid of radicals.

[Oracle]

insanely simple. Get non communist/vanguardist generals always hired in your army. Once previous dies, a new one takes his place etc. That way you can protect yourself from communists. If you failed spectre event, just hire anarchists

[Dcethe]

pass poor laws, keep landed voting, make sure all the buildings you have are publicly traded, empower the church and make sure there are no secular academies / churches.

boom, coomies stay poor and can't do anything.

[Azunai]

Beating the socialists with secret police didn't work in the real world either. The way to defeat them is through SOL, just like the western countries in the 2nd half of the 20th century. Content people in a prosperous country don't fall easily for the socialist lies.

[Damedius]

Originally posted by Azunai:

Beating the socialists with secret police didn't work in the real world either. The way to defeat them is through SOL, just like the western countries in the 2nd half of the 20th century. Content people in a prosperous country don't fall easily for the socialist lies.

Comfortable people with high SoL become complacent. They believe the propaganda of the ruling class that tells that free market capitalism and rugged individualism are the key to prosperity.

This allows the ruling class to relocate the means of production to other countries. It then allows them to increase the supply of labour putting downward pressure on wages. It also allows them to tell them taxes are bad for the economy while it hides it's wealth in corporations located in offshore tax havens. While using using puppets it puts in place in the government to subsidise it's corporations at the expense of the rest of society.

[Kiethoo]

So then this game is still just extremely poorly designed.
The People should feel a sense of pride and honor serving their Kaiser!
(Kaiser Wilhelm 125 popularity/ Armed Forces IG{Influencial})
Those that don't should be shot en-mass as Traitors by the Loyal Armed Forces!

That being said Im still quiet sure it was just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ RNG that ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me,
as Communism tech unlocked at a very early moment in the game where I have just formed Greater Germany and then HRE and while Northern Germany is quiet well developed and loyal the influx of poor ass non-germans require alot of building and changes, and though I tried releasing Croatia and Hungery to let them fend for themselves, I am still stuck with a large mass of angry pissants, even after changing BACK to giving them their own farmlands plots. Filthy unwashed pasent rabal.

Would pissing them off into starting a civil war and then mowing them down with Hussars and Cannons help?