fix colonisation and interests...

[WhiteHornedRatMessiah]

America colonise way to fast and Russia and other nations can spam colonise all over the map..... Kinda how you say silly

[The Void Boy]

Yeah they decided to do away with the colonial power and colonial range system from Victoria 2. So now everyone can colonize everything from anywhere. I don't know why.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by The Void Boy:

Yeah they decided to do away with the colonial power and colonial range system from Victoria 2. So now everyone can colonize everything from anywhere. I don't know why.

They need to make the AI act according to their strategy. If the US has Expand Resource Industries, Conservative Agenda and Defend Borders. They shouldn’t be colonizing Africa.

The only nations that should colonize are the ones with Aquire Colonies as a strategy.

I’m sure the goal is to have the AI act accordingly but I hope it doesn’t take a year to implement it.

[WhiteHornedRatMessiah]

Its crap because players abuse this and crap all over the world( if you are a nation that doesn't have colonisation ) you up[ sh*t creek without a paddle

[Scheneighnay]

as the US it's strange that for my colonial options I can't opt to expand Liberia. Guess it could work if I annex it first.

[Oubley]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

They need to make the AI act according to their strategy. If the US has Expand Resource Industries, Conservative Agenda and Defend Borders. They shouldn’t be colonizing Africa.

But we actually have a big history with Africa all while saying we had no interest in stuff across that big ocean. I think we might have owned Tripoli or something at one point. So that sort of sounds accurate historically to a degree.

There history were we went to war with pirates or something, then I think congress also had some $$$ deal with Libya.

Plus, this is the 1800's, indentured servants stopped and there was that other trade.

I want to say there was some relationship with Liberia as well were they were a territory or something and they declared indpendence and we sort of shrugged our shoulders and said ok more or less.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by Oubley:

Originally posted by Kimlin:

They need to make the AI act according to their strategy. If the US has Expand Resource Industries, Conservative Agenda and Defend Borders. They shouldn’t be colonizing Africa.

But we actually have a big history with Africa all while saying we had no interest in stuff across that big ocean. I think we might have owned Tripoli or something at one point. So that sort of sounds accurate historically to a degree.

There history were we went to war with pirates or something, then I think congress also had some $$$ deal with Libya.

Plus, this is the 1800's, indentured servants stopped and there was that other trade.

I want to say there was some relationship with Liberia as well were they were a territory or something and they declared indpendence and we sort of shrugged our shoulders and said ok more or less.

So you’re arguing against the AI acting according to it’s strategy?

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by The Void Boy:

Yeah they decided to do away with the colonial power and colonial range system from Victoria 2. So now everyone can colonize everything from anywhere. I don't know why.

I agree that it's not a good system as it stands but since you 'asked', it's predicated upon the Declared Interests system.

You can establish colonies in strategic regions where you have declared an Interest, and within those strategic regions you can colonize a state region in which at least one state is controlled by a Decentralized nation. Once you’ve selected a location, one of the provinces in that state region will be the starting point for your colony. Having a colony in a state region does not give you a monopoly on it; other colonial powers can create competing colonies, resulting in split states and messy borders that are sure to generate diplomatic tensions in the future.

Since the number of declared interests you can have is based on your rank, it allows the major powers to colonise far from home, even Austria. It won't be so easy for a minor never mind if they can because they'll need the other pre-requsites to be successful too. Scotland had a colony in the late 17th century which failed catastrophically leading to the union. Scotland was a minor power and it tried but it failed to colonise.

I definitely think the system needs further tweaking in particular for Russia to focus its expansion eastwards and America westwards.

[Ransom_Romanus]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

They need to make the AI act according to their strategy. If the US has Expand Resource Industries, Conservative Agenda and Defend Borders. They shouldn’t be colonizing Africa.

The only nations that should colonize are the ones with Aquire Colonies as a strategy.

I’m sure the goal is to have the AI act accordingly but I hope it doesn’t take a year to implement it.

If they do as you suggest then they would also have to do it to war in addition to colonizing.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by Ransom_Romanus:

Originally posted by Kimlin:

They need to make the AI act according to their strategy. If the US has Expand Resource Industries, Conservative Agenda and Defend Borders. They shouldn’t be colonizing Africa.

The only nations that should colonize are the ones with Aquire Colonies as a strategy.

I’m sure the goal is to have the AI act accordingly but I hope it doesn’t take a year to implement it.

If they do as you suggest then they would also have to do it to war in addition to colonizing.

True, logic would dictate that if the nations have a personality or strategy then they should follow it.

[Ransom_Romanus]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

Originally posted by Ransom_Romanus:

If they do as you suggest then they would also have to do it to war in addition to colonizing.

True, logic would dictate that if the nations have a personality or strategy then they should follow it.

Do you always stay within the confines of what you call your 'personality' or do you sometimes (maybe more often than you'd like to admit) act outside those boundaries? The point being that a 'personality' does NOT limit you to a preset set of rules or actions!

[WhiteHornedRatMessiah]

It breaks the game for players playing small nations and big countries and declare interest in the while of the world and just blob out of control without any real repercussions

[The Void Boy]

I just played a USA game where I tried to open Uruguay's market. Uruguay swayed Britain into joining the war, then I swayed France, then Uruguay swayed Prussia, then I swayed Russia. We almost had a world war over Uruguayan free trade.

Yeah maybe taking the terrible crisis system from Victoria 2 and making it the defacto system for starting wars, might not have been the best play.

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by The Void Boy:

I just played a USA game where I tried to open Uruguay's market. Uruguay swayed Britain into joining the war, then I swayed France, then Uruguay swayed Prussia, then I swayed Russia. We almost had a world war over Uruguayan free trade.

Yeah maybe taking the terrible crisis system from Victoria 2 and making it the defacto system for starting wars, might not have been the best play.

Almost? Did they back down?

[The Void Boy]

Originally posted by Kimlin:

Originally posted by The Void Boy:

I just played a USA game where I tried to open Uruguay's market. Uruguay swayed Britain into joining the war, then I swayed France, then Uruguay swayed Prussia, then I swayed Russia. We almost had a world war over Uruguayan free trade.

Yeah maybe taking the terrible crisis system from Victoria 2 and making it the defacto system for starting wars, might not have been the best play.

Almost? Did they back down?

Yes they backed down

[Kimlin]

Originally posted by The Void Boy:

Originally posted by Kimlin:

Almost? Did they back down?

Yes they backed down

That’s too bad. World Wars are extremely fun. My one complaint is military access as nations begin to capitulate.