Meiji Restoration

[Draco Pendragon©]

I just finished the honourable Restoration and im kinda confused because there is now Emperor Komei and not Meiji.
How the hek im gonna put Meiji on the Throne? ( I want those industrialists!)
Do i need to waite till Komei dies? I hope there is some other way ;A;

[Nats]

Meiji was historically just the name assigned to the Emperor as he presided over the Meiji period of restoration. Emperor Meiji wasn't actually called Meiji.

The Meiji Restoration in this game is just the name assigned to the act of Japanese Modernisation I would think. So it doesn't probably refer to any particularly person. Following history, in your game Emperor Komei would likely to become to be known as Emperor Meiji if he presided over that era.

[Draco Pendragon©]

That being correct tho, i still want to know how and even if i can put Meiji on the Throne because i want the industrialist to be boosted by him in my Gonverment.

[TasteDasRainbow]

You pretty much cannot. The games 'historical' play is beyond limited and does not align historical scenarios.

The US will *never* go to a historically skewed civil war over slavery, if any civil war at all. I saw abraham lincoln once in 1840 in the intelligent party and never again.

It will likely be years before things like this are implemented, if they ever are.

[Alehkra]

Emperor Komei was Meiji's father, so I assume he's what you get if you do the restoration before 1867 (when Meiji ascended the throne). Presumably you'll get Meiji when Komei dies.

[Nats]

Originally posted by TasteDasRainbow:

You pretty much cannot. The games 'historical' play is beyond limited and does not align historical scenarios.

The US will *never* go to a historically skewed civil war over slavery, if any civil war at all. I saw abraham lincoln once in 1840 in the intelligent party and never again.

It will likely be years before things like this are implemented, if they ever are.

I am not sure about that. I watched a recent video where it was explaining how the game can create WW1 and the ACW but its down to events, reactions and player decisions of the game rather than being a scripted event.

[Nats]

Originally posted by Alehkra:

Emperor Komei was Meiji's father, so I assume he's what you get if you do the restoration before 1867 (when Meiji ascended the throne). Presumably you'll get Meiji when Komei dies.

If you performed the Meiji Restoration during Komei's reign he should become Emperor Meiji lol. Meiji cannot exist outside the Meiji Era. I guess that is the difficulty in making a semi historical game lol. Its like having The Schleiffen Plan being created by someone who isnt called Schleiffen lol.

[=(FGR)=Sentinel]

It's important to note that Emperor Meiji was his posthumous name. Realistically any character that presides over the Meiji restoration is "Emperor Meiji" due to the fact that Meiji and every emperor after them were posthumously named after the era they reigned during. On the other hand, Komei is the posthumous name of the emperor before Meiji, so I'm not sure what's going on with that.

[Alehkra]

Originally posted by Nats:

If you performed the Meiji Restoration during Komei's reign he should become Emperor Meiji lol. Meiji cannot exist outside the Meiji Era. I guess that is the difficulty in making a semi historical game lol. Its like having The Schleiffen Plan being created by someone who isnt called Schleiffen lol.

The game actually doesn't call it the Meiji Restoration by default, it's just named after whoever your sitting monarch is. So he presumably got the "Komei Restoration". Sure there's an argument to be made that whoever the sitting Emperor is should get renamed Meiji, but the weirdness of nengo in relation to Imperial names (Meiji was the first Emperor where they got a single era name that corresponded to their posthumous name anyways; Komei reigned over 7 different eras, not a single one of them the Komei era) is a fairly niche concern that only has a minor impact on flavor, and doesn't really impact gameplay at all. Komei and Meiji are what those respective individuals have come to be known by. Having an Emperor Meiji who opposes westernization and industry as Komei did would just confuse people. As would calling them Usohito and Mutsuhito.

[TasteDasRainbow]

Originally posted by Nats:

I am not sure about that. I watched a recent video where it was explaining how the game can create WW1 and the ACW but its down to events, reactions and player decisions of the game rather than being a scripted event.

Events that the AI will never take, and still are not constrained enough to cause the historical scenarios.

Playing US, the only thing you can do is make the plantation shareholders upset forcibly, which will cause an arbitrary revolt. In my US run, following the event journal as closely as possible, I simply banned slavery and waited the 10 years out, and it was over. No response, no revolt, nothing.

WW1 has not happened in anybodies playthrough yet, not a single player. Wars may happen in europe around that time, but nothing even remotely close to ww1 is affected. Not to mention, the AI will NEVER consistently make their journal events happen, so even if it was in there it still wouldn't happen, such as things like the restoration.

[HatefulMother]

I just did a Japan campaign and I know the pain of wanting that industrialist boost.

[EP]

I've gotten Meiji before, and also Komei. I think as others have said it depends on the timing of when you complete the event. I've also had Meiji killed in a duel before and a different guy came to the throne when I did the restoration lol.

[SIX]

Originally posted by Alehkra:

Emperor Komei was Meiji's father, so I assume he's what you get if you do the restoration before 1867 (when Meiji ascended the throne). Presumably you'll get Meiji when Komei dies.

This is correct

[Draco Pendragon©]

Is it for sure that when i do the restauration in 1867 or later that i have Meiji and not Komei?

[Exile]

I did restoration in 1880 and got Meiji restoration and Meiji as leader

[Draco Pendragon©]

Next time i should first do some tests and then asking xD

Solution - If you do the restoriation before 1867 you get Komei, as soon as you hit the 1, Januar 1867 you will get Meiji :D
Kinda a relief that Paradox did not ♥♥♥♥♥♥ this up, not like the Flag and the Name of the Shogunat x) (Which is even miss translated in german lol)