not possible to break china apart?

[Thargrim]

hey hey,

i noticed in a few different runs that, atleast i, can't break up china anymore.

In my lust run, they had 15+ civil wars, were going into default and bankrupt non stop, lost opium war, and so on.

If i play the game in german, and play as china, there is no way to reduce the bar at the jounral entry to 0 since there is no negative modifiers.

If i play in English there are the normal modifiers to reduce it to 0 (losing opium war and so on) but most of them dosn't work anymore, like civial war, goin bankrupt (no is called getting loans?)

Is it just me? :D

[Hat8]

I have noticed that they broke up alot more easily. Although I try to keep China united because I prefer having giant trade routes with them.

[Damedius]

Why do you want to break them? I like using them to fund my construction.

[Strifeboy]

How do you know if they are going to break up, like is heavenly kingdom a good or bad thing if wanting them to shatter. Gotta pick up the pieces with the colonial block power.

[Thargrim]

befor 1,7

"Fragile Unity
China has a chance of collapsing into numerous smaller states if too much goes wrong, namely failing to avoid or weather various historical events that brought the real life Qing Dynasty to its knees.

Each event contributes 20% to a score that, when filled, will trigger the China Shatters event.

These include:

Losing the Opium Wars
The appearance of the Heavenly Kingdom
Failing to defeat the Heavenly Kingdom
Failing to defeat the Boxer rebellion
Going into default
Having a civil war
Becoming a subject
Abolishing the monarchy
You can reverse the progress of this bar (by −20%) via the following:

Win the Opium Wars
Become a recognized power
Finish the Stamp Out Monarchism Journal Entry"

after 1,7 "Going into default" is bugged, since it is called "getting into loan" now, so it dosn't work. u can get (or china Ai) bankrupt non stop and nothing happens.

u need 5 negative points to break china apart.
Boxer rebellion is like in 1900~
Civil wars mostly don't happen on my games maybe 1-2 in the whole game (still not enough)

why i want to break china apart? so u can puppet them for like 30 infamy :D.. all of them

[Strifeboy]

Fun tip if they back down to conquest of parts of them when broken up it costs almost nothing with the colonial mandate.

[Thargrim]

y thats why u can puppet all of the split china nations with around 30 infamy