How do you deal with high infamy and subjects?

[Raving Monomaniac]

I'm asking because there doesn't seem to be a way to forcefully decrease autonomy, and if you go infamous, let alone Pariah, your subject won't let you annex them.

[Toppopia]

Doesnt seem like you can force lower autonomy since you have to make them have low liberty desire and to to do that you go to the diplomacy tab and do things like lower subject payments, support regime, if you dont need their help in wars you can even exempt them from service for bonuses.

Still learning everything but it took me 10 years to realise there was a subjects tab in the diplomacy menu so I wasnt lowering autonomy as quickly as I could have in my subjects playing Russia.

Edit: What VoiD said reminded me of this, if you have protectorates in Afghanistan for example, the journal entries they have will compel them to fight eachother so you can join the side of whichever protectorate will offer lower autonomy on the winner/loser and just crush them. It doesnt matter who gets stronger since you're going to annex them anyway.

[VoiD]

cant you force them to lower autonomy if they rebel?

[Raving Monomaniac]

Originally posted by VoiD:

cant you force them to lower autonomy if they rebel?

If they rebel. Could be a while before they try that.