I am so tired of cut down to size and ALL vs you

[Oracle]

This is stupid. I am playing as Champassak under Siam, in 15 years I have enough army to beat it, take lands from siam, and conquer entire Vietnam in less than a year, the problem is, to do so, I have to reroll 50 times until NO ONE joins Siam in my revolution. What the hell is that? How am I suppose to become #1 if I am constantly beaten by someone 10000 times more powerful? There is a mechanic to catch up science, but wtf where is a mechanic to catch up land? I think if u start a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ 5-100k pop nation no one should even dare to join against you. There always should be a way to be #1, no matter what you start. I am tiny nation fighting for independence, and france, gb, dutch simply says, nope, we gonna help siam, that already feel confident in winning this conflict. Because you should suffer. And cut down to size mechanic? 100 infamy is a joke, I always end up having 1000 infamy. And if you do not start on some isolated island where you can be conquered only by sea, it is almost gg for you (not talking about great powers, that can basically 1 v 5 and win it all). I wish cut down to size was removed, and tiny nations would have some chance to become independent and conquer everything without reroling 50 times. I just want to play worst nations without additional unbeatable challenges

[pauloandrade224]

U always end up with 1000 infamy?????

what are u doing are u crazy????

Thats why the GPs are after u ur infamous af !

[QTV]

This is some of the funniest ♥♥♥♥ I have read.

[Alex]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

U always end up with 1000 infamy?????

what are u doing are u crazy????

Thats why the GPs are after u ur infamous af !

The problem is that most unification GPs are unfinished. Instead of the "civilized" path of setting up yourself as the unification candidate (Germany, Italy, Scandinavia), the unification DP in all other cases is a simple "annex country". Of course, this will net you a lot of infamy.

[pauloandrade224]

Originally posted by Alex:

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

U always end up with 1000 infamy?????

what are u doing are u crazy????

Thats why the GPs are after u ur infamous af !

The problem is that most unification GPs are unfinished. Instead of the "civilized" path of setting up yourself as the unification candidate (Germany, Italy, Scandinavia), the unification DP in all other cases is a simple "annex country". Of course, this will net you a lot of infamy.

Ok sure but ur not gonna get to like 100 infamy unless ur playing terribly like i dont go beyond 50 infamy myself if i can avoid it.

[Terry_Wrist]

I'm not a fan of all GPs verse the player, but if every time I looked at the newspaper and the front page was the same nation declaring another war, I'd be concerned too.

[Alex]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

Ok sure but ur not gonna get to like 100 infamy unless ur playing terribly like i dont go beyond 50 infamy myself if i can avoid it.

Annexing an entire country, of, let's say 3 provinces as a regional power will easily get you over 50 infamy, though. And you can't use the "unification" DP piecemeal, it's either all at once or nothing.

So, if your region's unification DP is unfinished, simply don't use it. Instead, make the target a tributary, then lower them to a vassal. This counts as "controlling" for the sake of triggering the unification via cultural formation and all eligible vassals will be integrated.

Originally posted by Terry_Wrist:

I'm not a fan of all GPs verse the player, but if every time I looked at the newspaper and the front page was the same nation declaring another war, I'd be concerned too.

Not if it's some Absurdistan at the back end of the world.

[Oracle]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

U always end up with 1000 infamy?????

what are u doing are u crazy????

Thats why the GPs are after u ur infamous af !

how can i have 1 billion GDP if I never conquer lands? what is the point in running tall with no conquers? There is 0 challenge then, you just revolution yourself until u get all laws you want (tbh I will revolution myself in any gameplay anyway =D), then just build up like an idiot and here is your 20 SoL

[Lee]

I mean the thing is the AI treat you like Napoleon. Any war is seen as a napoleon move and you're gonna get coalition'd because of the aids AI but honestly they do needa fix this ♥♥♥♥. I've got nations making alliances that are impossible at the time IRL.

[Oracle]

Originally posted by Lee:

I mean the thing is the AI treat you like Napoleon. Any war is seen as a napoleon move and you're gonna get coalition'd because of the aids AI but honestly they do needa fix this ♥♥♥♥. I've got nations making alliances that are impossible at the time IRL.

I am fighting for independence and GB sides with siam... this is not ok

[Oracle]

https://ibb.co/dp8jy6D

this is what I constantly face, this should NEVER happen

[Alex]

Originally posted by Oracle:

https://ibb.co/dp8jy6D

this is what I constantly face, this should NEVER happen

That's not telling us anything.

But yes, great power intervention is rather random.

[Oracle]

only 1 time in 50 NO ONE joins against you.... this kills all the fun in game. I spent 20 hours doing the same thing, because if someone joins against, you need to reroll entire game seed. That is 10-15 years, only because of 1 crucial war


this is what happaneds after you finally reroll siam
https://ibb.co/jVbV971
https://ibb.co/Yfgv2hd

[Alex]

How high is your infamy? Also, straight up conquering lands, especially multiple provinces at once, increases the probability of intervention. Remember, DPs not only give you infamy, they lower your relations with everyone who has an interest in that area. You probably got something like minus 20 at once, no wonder that it upset them.

Better go down the route of making your target a tributary, then lower their authonomy.

[Oracle]

Originally posted by Alex:

How high is your infamy? Also, straight up conquering lands, especially multiple provinces at once, increases the probability of intervention. Remember, DPs not only give you infamy, they lower your relations with everyone who has an interest in that area. You probably got something like minus 20 at once, no wonder that it upset them.

Better go down the route of making your target a tributary, then lower their authonomy.

if I have a power to make someone tributary that means I already at the stage where infamy is just a number, but I strugle to fight independence at all

[Alex]

Originally posted by Oracle:

if I have a power to make someone tributary that means I already at the stage where infamy is just a number, but I strugle to fight independence at all

Oh, yeah, now I see the problem, you're simply playing the game wrong.

Let me explain it again, you get infamy AND a reduction in relations with any country which has a interest in this region. A single hit of, let's say -20, is far worse than multiple steps of maybe five to ten, spread out over a longer time. Enforce a tributary status, repair the relations with the great powers, lower the tributary status to vassal, then move onto the next target. Once you can form a nation, all eligible vassal states will be integrated.