Isolated from market tanking my game?

[Ruffio]

Recently picked up the game and trying to learn the ropes (slowly).

Started play as Norway. Making good progress, at one time the Swedish market change to the Prussian market as they enter a trade deal (whatever).

Then Prussia seems to land in a war, and all my states become isolated. My not exactly comfortable surplus, but at least balanced budget start tank big time.

How do I deal with this?

[Menkerot]

that's always a problem of being in a foreign market since any blockade will hurt you. As Norway one of the goals is to achieve independence and be your own market with your own trade or at least be the senior partner in a customs union. And since you are learning the game, there are better countries suited for this purpose: Belgium, Sweden, Argentina, US, Switzerland and some others. Norway is full of potential but as a junior partner of union with Sweden is a bit harder.

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Menkerot:

that's always a problem of being in a foreign market since any blockade will hurt you. As Norway one of the goals is to achieve independence and be your own market with your own trade or at least be the senior partner in a customs union. And since you are learning the game, there are better countries suited for this purpose: Belgium, Sweden, Argentina, US, Switzerland and some others. Norway is full of potential but as a junior partner of union with Sweden is a bit harder.

Sure, but as I'm still learning the game I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to solve the issue I landed myself in. Or something I could done earlier to help prevent it. This just around 1850 so not that terrible long in.

Is trade nodes being raided that is preventing then isolation, or something else? When I check the nodes it says number of convoys lost due to raids, but I don't see any deployed ships around them. Would it help if I added a few ships to fleet early on and deployed to protect trade nodes, or wouldn't that help vs get isolated from the market?

[Centipede]

I face this dilemma often as I play Romania and usually have to become a junior partner of Russia to manage to industrialize earlier. It's a crucial milestone decision whether I can break free Brexit style or continue in the common market which might not serve my interests.

I can't say I can offer a lot of advice since I'm still learning the game and I'm still trying to figure out if it's feasible to become a separate market, so I'm going to look for people offering better advice.

That being said I noticed that if you want to try and become a strong nation, if you can beeline nationalism as well as technology to push prestige you might be able to gain the status of a major power and have the option to be independent. Plus, if you are a stronger power and you go to the diplomacy screen, you can declare interests in regions of the world to gain access to new markets.

If you're not playing ironman I'd advise to save the game, leave the custom union and after checking out the economic situation for a while, note down what hurt your supply and industry the most and reload to build that up before trying again.

Becoming independent tanks your market, but if you prepare in advance you can recover quickly to some degree, mainly if you have a strong resource base as well as sufficient government administration to import necessary goods for shortages. I think senior partners tend to suck out resources from you and hike up prices on the industrial goods, but sometimes it can be the other way around and you build your own industry around importing raw materials - so it's good to check that out and expand accordingly. You'll also be able to have your own tariff policy and trade routes to steer imports and exports in a more efficient way.

[Menkerot]

Originally posted by Ruffio:

Originally posted by Menkerot:

that's always a problem of being in a foreign market since any blockade will hurt you. As Norway one of the goals is to achieve independence and be your own market with your own trade or at least be the senior partner in a customs union. And since you are learning the game, there are better countries suited for this purpose: Belgium, Sweden, Argentina, US, Switzerland and some others. Norway is full of potential but as a junior partner of union with Sweden is a bit harder.

Sure, but as I'm still learning the game I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to solve the issue I landed myself in. Or something I could done earlier to help prevent it. This just around 1850 so not that terrible long in.

Is trade nodes being raided that is preventing then isolation, or something else? When I check the nodes it says number of convoys lost due to raids, but I don't see any deployed ships around them. Would it help if I added a few ships to fleet early on and deployed to protect trade nodes, or wouldn't that help vs get isolated from the market?

yes, you can fix it by sending your ships to protect your trade routes, AI isn't very good at it but loves raiding. And Sweden and Prussia are terribly easy to blockade due to their coastline.

[zelbone]

I just ran into this issue. Norway is not the first nation I have played, more like the 6th. But every time Prussia got into a ware, Norway gets isolated market, but it doesn't seem to clear up. Even if the sea nodes are clear and even after the war ends. I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but the UI does not give any reason why regions are isolated. (aside from the normal ones claiming that the region lacks docks.)

[Azunai]

I think overseas territories that aren't connected to their market capital require a certain number of convoys to count as connected. If the market lost all its convoys to raids, it may take a while after the war rnds to rebuild thrm to the required minimum level.

[6ap6apblckaAa]

If you are a junior partner of another market, then it's market leaders responsibility to connect you with his convoys. And there are quite some things that can happen with AIs convoys, especially in war and after it.