Is taiwan in this game as a country?

[barbie]

Asking because i will not buy if taiwan is a country

[Shedletsky]

yes taiwan is country do not buy they are to op

[Daonar]

Is it really in the game? Then it's historically inaccurate, as taiwan separatism from China didn't happen until 1950s - which is around 100+ years after game's setup.

[Waylanderer]

Originally posted by Daonar:

Is it really in the game? Then it's historically inaccurate, as taiwan separatism from China didn't happen until 1950s - which is around 100+ years after game's setup.

Taiwan isn't even separatist. It sees itself as the real China

[Shintai]

There is no such thing as a country name Taiwan. Neither today or back then.

[Menkerot]

Originally posted by Maniaco:

Originally posted by Daonar:

Is it really in the game? Then it's historically inaccurate, as taiwan separatism from China didn't happen until 1950s - which is around 100+ years after game's setup.

Taiwan isn't even separatist. It sees itself as the real China

as they do both but since Kuomingtan lost, it's basically separatism, even though it's just a formality. In any case the island used to belong to Qing back in the day.

[El Guapo]

Nope, not in the game, can be modded in though:
https://vic3.paradoxwikis.com/Countries
https://vic3.paradoxwikis.com/Formable_countries

Should Taiwan be a formable nation in Vicky 3?
Yes, for the same reason "Cherokee" and "Kurdistan" are in the game, or "Israel" for that matter.
Victoria 3 is about plausible divergence from historical timelines. That's why it contains nations that didn't exist in that timeline, but could have existed.

Could Israel have been formed in the 19th or early 20th century? Of course, just like Taiwan could have been formed in that timeframe.
Japan could have occupied it earlier, the population could have revolted and declared independence etc.

The reason for Taiwan being excluded from the game is obvious of course. Is it a great loss to the game? For Taiwanese people probably, should be easy enough to mod in though. Maybe there's already a mod in the workshop.
Most people likely don't care enough about the issue.

PS: Lolz, I misread the o.p. :D shouldn't have bothered trying to help...

[arbenzlola]

Can't tell if trolling or incel Chinese ultra-nationalist weirdo

[Papa Alexandre de Morais]

Originally posted by Maniaco:

Originally posted by Daonar:

Is it really in the game? Then it's historically inaccurate, as taiwan separatism from China didn't happen until 1950s - which is around 100+ years after game's setup.

Taiwan isn't even separatist. It sees itself as the real China

This is How you died 🤣

[Papa Alexandre de Morais]

Originally posted by barbie:

Asking because i will not buy if taiwan is a country

Super ultra mega ultimate quiz show!

Taiwan came into existence after the Second World War, the game Victoria 3 takes place before the First World War.Does Taiwan exist in Victoria 3?

A)Yes
B)No
C)This question is manipulation by the capitalist media 🇨🇳

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by Presidente Myers:

Originally posted by barbie:

Asking because i will not buy if taiwan is a country

Super ultra mega ultimate quiz show!

Taiwan came into existence after the Second World War, the game Victoria 3 takes place before the First World War.Does Taiwan exist in Victoria 3?

A)Yes
B)No
C)This question is manipulation by the capitalist media 🇨🇳

Missing the point though as mentioned above. There are dozens of formable or releaseable nations in Vicky3 that didn't exist in the real-timeline or never.
Still they are in the game for alternative history paths, like the Republic of California or whatever. Hence, having Taiwan as a releasable nation/puppet would make sense, gameplay-wise.

[Timmy the Dragonborn]

No, there was no PRC or ROC in 1836. Taiwan was Qing territory back then.

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by Timmy the Dragonborn:

No, there was no PRC or ROC in 1836. Taiwan was Qing territory back then.

There was also no "Transcaucasia", "United Baltic Provinces" or "Arabia" as a nation back then or today. Yet you can release/form these made-up nations.
Applying the same logic, why make "Carolina" a formable nation and the island of Taiwan not? The former has never been anything like a sovereign nation while the latter is closer to a nation today than any of the aforementioned ones.

There are only two plausible reasons for Taiwan not being in the game:
a) too insignificant for anyone to care (which I doubt since 23.5 mio rich Taiwanese people are a more significant customer base than the great nationalist movement of Transcausia)
b) bowing before PR China

[Daonar]

What does it have to do with "bowing" before PR China? It's just acknowledging the fact: Taiwan is China, Kosovo is Serbia, Texas belongs to Mexico, and so on.

[El Guapo]

Originally posted by Daonar:

What does it have to do with "bowing" before PR China? It's just acknowledging the fact: Taiwan is China, Kosovo is Serbia, Texas belongs to Mexico, and so on.

You don't even own the game so you are probably not aware of the game mechanisms.
Upon game start in 1836, all nations that existed then historically are in the game.
However, there are dozens of releasable nations (some made up like "Transcaucasia") which can be released or formed when certain conditions are met.

For instance: when you own all Baltic territory, you can form the "United Baltic Provinces", a nation that didn't exist in 1836 or later.

Hence: Taiwan could as well be a releasable puppet for Japan or declare independence as result of a revolt.

Note: not only nations that really existed between 1836 and 1936 are in the game files.

[Oracle]

yeah I'd like to play as Taiwan, some democracy country against autocracy monster. Tired of running Ukraine to superpower, especially when you find out that by releasing it Russia goes insanely weaker. So you just cut it, then persia all the way down to punjab, then suddenly Prussia falls, then Austria, and then goodbye Europe =D