Victoria 3

Victoria 3

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Jotbe83 2023 年 10 月 22 日 上午 5:30
Is it possible to win opium wars as britain or am i just that bad.
How my 150 divisions are supposed to win against 450?
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Emperor Zero 2023 年 10 月 26 日 上午 5:40 
引用自 Skinny
引用自 Menkerot
it's not good at all, actually.

How is that not good, you're playing a game that is based on the historical course of humanity. Qing military was a trash-heap before they tried to start modernising their army, the only thing they've had going for them was overwhelming numbers. China under the Qing dynasty was still losing wars into the 20th century when they lost to japan in the first Sino-Japanese war and were losing the 2nd Sino-Japanese war until japan got stomped by america in the pacific.

GB had a total of around 19,000 soldiers active in the first opium war, china has around 200,000. GB lost around 800 soldiers (to all causes) and china lost around 7000 (to all causes). China lost after 2 years of fighting and the treaty ports/Hong Kong were given to GB.

The 2nd opium war reads about the same, overwhelming GB/France victory.

If you don't like that the game is modelled mostly historical and you don't want to get beaten by GB (like they did irl (twice btw) ), then either stop playing the game or look into a mod that updates the Qing military or something, cause you're most likely not going to beat them.


引用自 Knight_Kin

It's just a typo you saw before I fixed it, read it again.

-> Helps to maximize how your fronts are fought given there are now multiple battles simultaneously in beta

Hehe whoops
well it seems like the game does the opposite of reality and makes the uk have a weak pathetic military while the qing have a way more powerful one, weird how they changed it because before gb would stomp qing now its the other way around
DarkMjolnir 2023 年 10 月 26 日 下午 6:19 
引用自 Emperor Zero
well it seems like the game does the opposite of reality and makes the uk have a weak pathetic military while the qing have a way more powerful one, weird how they changed it because before gb would stomp qing now its the other way around

GB starts with skirmish infantry, and Qing doesn't even start with line infantry. They got 400 something units, sure, but GB has over a 100. Plus opium addiction gives QING a 25 percent debuff on offense and defense. If you're not able to roll over QIng as GB in the early game you must be doing something wrong. I say this as someone who plays as Qing all the time.

Naval invade Beijing and go on offense with all your units on that front and you should win in no time.
最後修改者:DarkMjolnir; 2023 年 10 月 26 日 下午 6:55
Emperor Zero 2023 年 10 月 27 日 上午 4:15 
引用自 DarkMjolnir
引用自 Emperor Zero
well it seems like the game does the opposite of reality and makes the uk have a weak pathetic military while the qing have a way more powerful one, weird how they changed it because before gb would stomp qing now its the other way around

GB starts with skirmish infantry, and Qing doesn't even start with line infantry. They got 400 something units, sure, but GB has over a 100. Plus opium addiction gives QING a 25 percent debuff on offense and defense. If you're not able to roll over QIng as GB in the early game you must be doing something wrong. I say this as someone who plays as Qing all the time.

Naval invade Beijing and go on offense with all your units on that front and you should win in no time.
Im playing on the 1.5 beta, does that change anything? because when i played back when the game first came out i used to steamroll qing without issue
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