Personal Union

[Kulle]

There is very little information about personal unions on the internet and YouTube, but the ones I find are about how to integrate them into your country. But I can't find anything about how to get out of a personal union. The only experience I have with this, is that you start a war and cross your fingers that strong countries joins your side. Something I rarely experience after the last update. when that is mentioned, there is a possibility without war, but then there must be a + and not a - from your overlord in the diplomacy tab. Something I have never achieved, and feel is simply impossible after many attempts. so.... Does anyone have experience with personal unions, and would like to share their experience?

[kgkong]

You basically have to some rival your overlord in GDP and/or military in order to use the peaceful war-free option to leave a custom union. Usually quite difficult to do as when you build your nation up, you're funding your overlord so you mostly end up in a perpetual game of catch-up. But that's not to say you can't.

You just have to siphon the population out of your overlords direction nation to drastically reduce their raw direct contribution to the market economy. So this comes down to really micro-managing your pops. Using greener grass decree, improve race relations, borders opened to allow migration, provide as many goods as you can (produce them locally or acquire through trade) to sustain the 3 strata of pops demands, and provide well paying jobs (really productive industries).

Helps to get some universities too to raise innovation to improve your tech rate so you can catch up technologically to your overlord if you're behind.

It usually just takes so long to do that it's easier to just raise up an army and fight for independence.

[Kulle]

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

You basically have to some rival your overlord in GDP and/or military in order to use the peaceful war-free option to leave a custom union. Usually quite difficult to do as when you build your nation up, you're funding your overlord so you mostly end up in a perpetual game of catch-up. But that's not to say you can't.

You just have to siphon the population out of your overlords direction nation to drastically reduce their raw direct contribution to the market economy. So this comes down to really micro-managing your pops. Using greener grass decree, improve race relations, borders opened to allow migration, provide as many goods as you can (produce them locally or acquire through trade) to sustain the 3 strata of pops demands, and provide well paying jobs (really productive industries).

Helps to get some universities too to raise innovation to improve your tech rate so you can catch up technologically to your overlord if you're behind.

It usually just takes so long to do that it's easier to just raise up an army and fight for independence.

okay. I understand. would be nice to have more choices in the future. If I am to be historically correct, Norway got out of the union from Sweden without a war. The government resigned in protest, the Swedish king was unable to create a new government, Norway then saw them self as independent, which the Swedish king did not accept, and demanded a vote. Over 350,000 voted to get out of the union, 180 voted the opposite, and then Norway became an independent country ;)

[kgkong]

Some nations do have special journal decisions for how they work. But currently this is mostly quite limited in scope as to who has them and what exactly they do. Most are more about other methods to forming a nation that later forms after 1836.

[Kulle]

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

Some nations do have special journal decisions for how they work. But currently this is mostly quite limited in scope as to who has them and what exactly they do. Most are more about other methods to forming a nation that later forms after 1836.

okey. well, thanks for the answer on my post :)

[teron]

Union will also break if the overlord stops being a monarchy.