What happened to Paradox?

[Gufo_Lesto]

Honestly, playing PDX games since HOI2 it's astounding how little historical accuracy is given in newer productions (from the absence of westernization to "meme paths " in hoi4 etc.), which, in this game, have even less mechanics than past chapters. This is, of course, the generic rant which is written evey 2 days or so in a PDX forum but it really baffles me the direction they have taken. Will this be the course of action from now on?

[Sofarluck]

This is why paradox makes mods easier to make

[Inquerion]

"What happened to Paradox?"

- Money. Stock market. Going mainstream.

[ShepherdOfCats]

Originally posted by Inquerion:

"What happened to Paradox?"

- Money. Stock market. Going mainstream.

This.

I first learned about paradox games (specifically victoria 2) playing another completely different genre of game (a first-person shooter no less). The company had practically no marketing budget back then and relied on word-of-mouth. It really says a lot when people will plug your game in a casual conversation.

But these days it is all about marketing, and much less about substance.

[BitterKlinger]

See also Creative Assembly

[morganjah]

They lack anyone who cares about history. It wouldn't be a problem, but their marketing team keeps claiming they produce 'deep, historically accurate simulations'.
I would be genuinely surprised if a single person at Paradox had voluntarily taken a history course in college, or read a history book since.

[Gorg420]

its what happens when you want to make something inclusive and accessible. its a bell curve the wider the reach the shallower the depth. End of story

[DinoMight]

greed

[LordZile]

Well look at EA. thats the prime example of what happends when you have corp that arent gamers and all about money and numbers on a sheet trying to make a game. hence why disney is droping EA after the contract is up. but ya PDX since i say HOI4 is going in the same direction. lack of bug fixing and push more flashy new content in patches only to make more bugs or broken systems. i just tried to play crusaders 3 and felt it got a bit away from the 4x stratagy and more in the micromanaging. even in that time the high ruler directed lower rulers to do things or not to do things. seemed that fefes would either never defend their lands or would attack allies unprovoked with high relation to the country.

[ulzgoroth]

Are you...complaining about the reduction in arbitrary historical railroad events in favor of simulation?

The simulation needs some work, but it is a way better concept.

[Legend28]

Paradox become ♥♥♥♥, and i played their games since EU1. Yes EU1 existed belive it or not.
This ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game is last money they get from me and only because i couldnt refund in time.

GL paradox with new crowd

[cptcheetah]

Alright, I will admit this game (and a lot of others) need much more historical accuracy. But Hoi4 is still a very good game (with the DLC) but that's what it is nowadays and it may be sad but its still much better than releasing a crappy ass game that barely works (Battlefield 2042) that gets a dead player base in 5 days. Admittedly, yes, this games playerbase right about now isn't great either but the moment content creators start giving it attention due to new DLC it might make this game somewhat decent. Historical accuracy in this game is a huge problem (and they don't have great wars which sucks) but you're probably going to be playing as a major nation and not going down historically because of some small things you decided to do to spice the game play up. So overall, this is a mediocre game at best right now, but it will get better and possibly so will the historic accuracy. At least Victoria 3 has better historic accuracy than hoi4 when you choose a single random focus path.

[Big Poppa]

The blood alone dlc for hoi4 is sitting at 36 percent positive reviews, Good luck selling that low rated trash. But yea maybe some low rated dlc will fix this low rated game.

[cptcheetah]

No I mean hoi4 is a decent game if you have ALL the DLC but that's like a 200 dollar game unless you use the subscription.

[Caleb000]

Paradox designs their games as sandboxes in victoria's case HOI is more realistic but I can see where your coming from with that paradox tries to make their games more "entertaining" and fast to keep people interested and ofc the dlcs make it more realistic but the dlcs should just be updates

[Liam]

Originally posted by Caleb000:

Paradox designs their games as sandboxes in victoria's case HOI is more realistic but I can see where your coming from with that paradox tries to make their games more "entertaining" and fast to keep people interested and ofc the dlcs make it more realistic but the dlcs should just be updates

Only HOI4 onwards were designed as sandboxes. Before then it was alternative history.