Victoria 3

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Innova Nov 25, 2022 @ 5:03pm
Broken warfare example i just had
Start as Zulu, declare war on Transvall, Portugal defends him. For some reason the Transvall and Portugal border on Zululand count as a single front. i have 2 generals i put one on offense and the other on defense. Again they are both 1 front but the portugal line just walks in with 0 defenders. i could not assign anyone to that line for the whole process i checked every step. Why can i not defend against portugal at all here. Every other war ive had in other games there would be 2 fronts so i can allocate soldiers appropriately.
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Tasteless Nov 25, 2022 @ 5:29pm 
Make sure the generals have soldiers assigned to them.
kgkong Nov 25, 2022 @ 5:45pm 
The front extends to include Portugal because in war, allies are seen as brothers, not different nations. This is how Vic3 models it. It's one border from XYZ side and one border from your side. Who all you share the border with that's your enemy, is your enemy. Doesn't make a difference.

Now this isn't particularly broken. There's a lot of mechanics that go into pushing a successful front. For one, don't just try to take on Pretoria and Protugal together without upgrading your military (better equipment). You need guns and canons to easily manage this fight as Zulu against the two. Just it's light weight in its current form.

Check the dev diaries for the plans for improving front line management and general-troop management.
Innova Nov 25, 2022 @ 6:54pm 
thanks for replies but i dont think you quite get it. like i had a notification at the top saying i have an undefended front, and i could not possibly defend it because the front in question could not be selected at all. the game recognizes is as a seperate front and it even appears to be on the map but i cannot defend it at all. yes i had troops in my armies.
kgkong Nov 25, 2022 @ 7:42pm 
Originally posted by Innova:
thanks for replies but i dont think you quite get it. like i had a notification at the top saying i have an undefended front, and i could not possibly defend it because the front in question could not be selected at all. the game recognizes is as a seperate front and it even appears to be on the map but i cannot defend it at all. yes i had troops in my armies.
It happens when there are fronts that you lack access to. Usually blocked by another nation, or a front in your war you're in that got cut off from your supply line so you cannot send troops in to that front.
Innova Nov 25, 2022 @ 9:00pm 
thats so strange since they are both right next to me and i only have 1 province. its impossible that their border was not touching mine. hopefully someone at paradox investigates. thank you all
GuileMike Nov 25, 2022 @ 9:18pm 
I have you beat with a 40 year frontless war...

stupid!
Many-Named Nov 26, 2022 @ 12:13am 
Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:
Originally posted by Innova:
thanks for replies but i dont think you quite get it. like i had a notification at the top saying i have an undefended front, and i could not possibly defend it because the front in question could not be selected at all. the game recognizes is as a seperate front and it even appears to be on the map but i cannot defend it at all. yes i had troops in my armies.
It happens when there are fronts that you lack access to.

So how is it a front if you lack access to it?
Innova Nov 26, 2022 @ 12:26am 
yeah i know right?
kgkong Nov 26, 2022 @ 6:04am 
It happens when there are fronts that you lack access to. Usually blocked by another nation, or a front in your war you're in that got cut off from your supply line so you cannot send troops in to that front.

There's a few instances of this that does happen in the game. Again, one is if you pushed a front, and an enemy pushed back but split the front and then pushed you back to your borders, but leaves a front available in their territory. But since you're cut off from having land or naval access to that front, you cannot send troops there.

The downside, the AI doesn't take into consideration their lack of ability to actually get to a front or not when making diplomatic plays.

We need military access agreement diplomatic actions.

Play a landlocked nation, war against your neighbor. They'll call in France or Great Britain. Oh no, scary. Wait... They can't touch you.
In regards to this, this was a developer oversight and the devs acknowledged this and will work on improving it with the next patch to feature diplomatic play updates. They should also be doing more to prevent diplomatic plays turning into wars where a nation said they'd join but has literally no access to the fronts.
Hugo Nov 29, 2022 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by Tasteless:
Make sure the generals have soldiers assigned to them.


Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:
The front extends to include Portugal because in war, allies are seen as brothers, not different nations. This is how Vic3 models it. It's one border from XYZ side and one border from your side. Who all you share the border with that's your enemy, is your enemy. Doesn't make a difference.

Now this isn't particularly broken. There's a lot of mechanics that go into pushing a successful front. For one, don't just try to take on Pretoria and Protugal together without upgrading your military (better equipment). You need guns and canons to easily manage this fight as Zulu against the two. Just it's light weight in its current form.

Check the dev diaries for the plans for improving front line management and general-troop management.
Dont give general advise that you get in the tutorial. while the problem is clearly something else. Its not their army being outdated that is the problem. Its the fact that their army is literally not functioning.
also frontlines clearly dont work like that. In the early wars against prussia as Austria, there are a million fronts and its a visual ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Based on your description it would be 1 or maybe 2 fronts. Against Russia its the same, Krakow/Russia 1 front, Austria/Russia 1 front.
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Date Posted: Nov 25, 2022 @ 5:03pm
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