Why does Austrian Germany not have its own flag?

[Manski]

That is just lazy af. Instead of adding 100 USA flags for each star, how about you add some meaningful flags instead? Austria using a flag representing Prussia and the Hansa makes no sense.

[Tasteless]

You have to form Austria-Hungary to get a new flag.

[Emperor2000]

Originally posted by Manski:

That is just lazy af. Instead of adding 100 USA flags for each star, how about you add some meaningful flags instead? Austria using a flag representing Prussia and the Hansa makes no sense.

+1

[kgkong]

It's not lazy. There's a lot of flavoring already thrown into a lot of that part of the game. It's not an easy decision to just go "and also add this flag". Somewhere else would have had to get something cut.

It does suck that what flavoring did get released with the game at launch is a bit unbalanced from nation to nation.

But it's PDX, they add a lot of flavor stuff as the game gets patches, so it's not big deal. Let em work and not crunch themselves hard so they don't release buggier patches and DLC.

[Manski]

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

It's not lazy. There's a lot of flavoring already thrown into a lot of that part of the game. It's not an easy decision to just go "and also add this flag". Somewhere else would have had to get something cut.

It does suck that what flavoring did get released with the game at launch is a bit unbalanced from nation to nation.

But it's PDX, they add a lot of flavor stuff as the game gets patches, so it's not big deal. Let em work and not crunch themselves hard so they don't release buggier patches and DLC.

It is lazy. The question of German unification was the most important and influential decision of the 19th century and of our modern world. We do not even have a Springtime of Nations event chain which was arguably the most important caesura for the establishment of European liberal democracies. How can you even defend that?

[kgkong]

Originally posted by Manski:

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

It's not lazy. There's a lot of flavoring already thrown into a lot of that part of the game. It's not an easy decision to just go "and also add this flag". Somewhere else would have had to get something cut.

It does suck that what flavoring did get released with the game at launch is a bit unbalanced from nation to nation.

But it's PDX, they add a lot of flavor stuff as the game gets patches, so it's not big deal. Let em work and not crunch themselves hard so they don't release buggier patches and DLC.

It is lazy. The question of German unification was the most important and influential decision of the 19th century and of our modern world. We do not even have a Springtime of Nations event chain which was arguably the most important caesura for the establishment of European liberal democracies. How can you even defend that?

I imagine due to the lack of overall unique flavoring to the journal quests that are in the game, there are plans to enhance these aspects and highlight them a lot more. In it will probably be the flag and it's more so something that never made the cut for release.

Sure, it sucks that it's not there to begin with. But it's not worth assuming it's lazy. It's not PDX doesn't have a history of adding flavor to their games that wasn't there from release.
There's a lot that goes into developing a game. My guess is it was something that was overlooked for the release, or got noticed but chosen to be cut from release as it would fit for a future DLC and flavor pack, or it was a toss up, do XYZ country flags or ZYX country flags and they didn't have time to do both, or just the order the flags were being done were in no particular order and it never made the release.

[Manski]

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

Originally posted by Manski:

It is lazy. The question of German unification was the most important and influential decision of the 19th century and of our modern world. We do not even have a Springtime of Nations event chain which was arguably the most important caesura for the establishment of European liberal democracies. How can you even defend that?

I imagine due to the lack of overall unique flavoring to the journal quests that are in the game, there are plans to enhance these aspects and highlight them a lot more. In it will probably be the flag and it's more so something that never made the cut for release.

Sure, it sucks that it's not there to begin with. But it's not worth assuming it's lazy. It's not PDX doesn't have a history of adding flavor to their games that wasn't there from release.
There's a lot that goes into developing a game. My guess is it was something that was overlooked for the release, or got noticed but chosen to be cut from release as it would fit for a future DLC and flavor pack, or it was a toss up, do XYZ country flags or ZYX country flags and they didn't have time to do both, or just the order the flags were being done were in no particular order and it never made the release.

I get your point. However, I would only understand it if they did it for minor nations. For major powers that's a huge no-no and inexcusable for a AAA publisher. Did we get so used to their DLC policy that such a rushed release is seen as normal? Kind of sad, really.

[kgkong]

Yea the consistency factor is a huh thing. I get that point too, and I don't doubt that the devs tried their best to balance out how much initial flavor nations got at the start.
I think the decision that it's not in the game is a lot more complex than a single answer. It's probably a culmination of all the factors, less being lazy though. You really don't wanna get artists and developers into a crunch as their productivity goes completely downhill fast. I'd rather they at least get a good variety of the flags than to work harder and longer hours for near perfection. This is something that's been heavily documented with the video game industry with pushing workers into a crunch workload (few breaks, every day is overtime, work from home and weekends etc) ends up killing productivity which results in buggier and slower development. Instead of jamming 3 months of work in as overtime before release, they could spend that time after releasing working on flags and flavor packs.

But they have a fairly rigid idea of the direction they're going and it doesn't look like we will see much flavor at all in 1.1 and likely not much shortly after based on Dev Diaries. We just gotta be patient.

[RandyNewman]

Originally posted by Manski:

Originally posted by KingGorillaKong:

It's not lazy. There's a lot of flavoring already thrown into a lot of that part of the game. It's not an easy decision to just go "and also add this flag". Somewhere else would have had to get something cut.

It does suck that what flavoring did get released with the game at launch is a bit unbalanced from nation to nation.

But it's PDX, they add a lot of flavor stuff as the game gets patches, so it's not big deal. Let em work and not crunch themselves hard so they don't release buggier patches and DLC.

It is lazy. The question of German unification was the most important and influential decision of the 19th century and of our modern world. We do not even have a Springtime of Nations event chain which was arguably the most important caesura for the establishment of European liberal democracies. How can you even defend that?

Springtime of Nations is in there. It doesn't fire often because it requires high radicals and several pissed-off IGs. You wouldn't even know it was in the game unless you were playing THAT badly as Sweden

[DinoMight]

Originally posted by Manski:

I get your point. However, I would only understand it if they did it for minor nations. For major powers that's a huge no-no and inexcusable for a AAA publisher. Did we get so used to their DLC policy that such a rushed release is seen as normal? Kind of sad, really.

this
my man!

[DerRitter]

Facts
this game has so little flavour, they didn't even bother using the right flags