Oil

[Flythos]

Im not sure if this is supposed to be like this or not ... but Oil is EXTREMLY lmited ...
With Germany it was basicly impossible to get Oil based Industry running in a big way ...

So i tried with Russia ... i have 400 Oil fields working ... the big ones are boosted with Admin Mana ...

5% gets exported because the other nations dont use it as much ... but even this is not enough to satisfy my eco ... it crazy where do i get enough oil O.O

(GDP >2b in 1900)

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Yeah, had this problem with USA in early 1900s also. Even with US, Canadian, Mexican AND Venezuelan oilfields under my direct control it was still not enough to meet my demands. Made me consider adopting early 2000s US foreign policy...

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Originally posted by spasti696969:

Is "mana" an actual resource in the game like in Magic the Gathering, or are people using that as shorthand for something else?

No it's just shorthand for abstract "resources" pulled out of thin air for example like influence in Stellaris

[Flythos]

Originally posted by Joostorm:

Yeah, had this problem with USA in early 1900s also. Even with US, Canadian, Mexican AND Venezuelan oilfields under my direct control it was still not enough to meet my demands. Made me consider adopting early 2000s US foreign policy...

Yeah i solved my "rubber" issue by beating French over and over again in africa until my eco was happy ... (i own A LOT down there)

[Ixal]

Not sure if that is random but in my game the entire north sea cost of Germany was full with oil (area around Bremen)

[Flythos]

Originally posted by Ixal:

Not sure if that is random but in my game the entire north sea cost of Germany was full with oil (area around Bremen)

yeah ... not enough ... NOT ENOUGH :D

[Flameraiser]

Sadly it is pretty much impossible to satisfy a large oil-based economy currently. At least as a smaller country you're likely better off using whatever oil you CAN get to power more convoys rather than industry. It doesn't help that the AI doesn't seem to care about building oil industry either - I've had to conquer northern Norway to get access to at least SOME oil in my Finland run.

Then again, even with no oil I was hitting #3 GDP as Finland, so oil economy isn't really needed. Just a shame that some of the end-game tech becomes pointless without decent supply of oil.

[lubed_assassin]

I'm producing about 40k oil, its mostly being used for machinery and i'm using it for electricity. I turned off plastics for glassware as it is a waste. There is probably more things I can adjust but it was kinda funny when I switched to oil for electricity I crashed the european economy. (playing as the usa :D)

You can squeeze out a bit more oil using whaling ships if you havent maxed your capacity on those. I almost want to invade canada just for their whaling industry, they are the 2nd producing of oil.... at 400. :(

I dont have venezuelas oil fields or anything in the middle east yet. Seemed like a waste to go to war with a large economy.

[Prisoner 76561197992841073]

Originally posted by lubed_assassin:

I'm producing about 40k oil, its mostly being used for machinery and i'm using it for electricity. I turned off plastics for glassware as it is a waste. There is probably more things I can adjust but it was kinda funny when I switched to oil for electricity I crashed the european economy. (playing as the usa :D)

You can squeeze out a bit more oil using whaling ships if you havent maxed your capacity on those. I almost want to invade canada just for their whaling industry, they are the 2nd producing of oil.... at 400. :(

I dont have venezuelas oil fields or anything in the middle east yet. Seemed like a waste to go to war with a large economy.

I highly suggest you go and take Canada's & Venezuela oil fields, they are big

[Derek]

Known bug. Apparently there's a typo in the code that's causing this.

[lubed_assassin]

Originally posted by Joostorm:

Originally posted by lubed_assassin:

I'm producing about 40k oil, its mostly being used for machinery and i'm using it for electricity. I turned off plastics for glassware as it is a waste. There is probably more things I can adjust but it was kinda funny when I switched to oil for electricity I crashed the european economy. (playing as the usa :D)

You can squeeze out a bit more oil using whaling ships if you havent maxed your capacity on those. I almost want to invade canada just for their whaling industry, they are the 2nd producing of oil.... at 400. :(

I dont have venezuelas oil fields or anything in the middle east yet. Seemed like a waste to go to war with a large economy.

I highly suggest you go and take Canada's & Venezuela oil fields, they are big

Strangely there is a large one in japan as well lol. I just figured out how to use the map to find them. Of course it means they have to have discovered it already.

Click the market click oil and make sure the potential production is clicked the magnifying glass, just picked up the ones in bolivia cuz i'm scary :D

[Rialm]

Originally posted by Flythos:

With Germany it was basicly impossible to get Oil based Industry running in a big way ...

You should try in HOI4, it happens the same thing. Romania, Russia are they place you should go if you are planning to build your OIL economy.

One thing that this game really need are foreign investments. because If I'm not mistaken you are force to get some resources by conquest or by colonization. This way they can implement westernization.

[Flythos]

Originally posted by Rialm:

Originally posted by Flythos:

With Germany it was basicly impossible to get Oil based Industry running in a big way ...

You should try in HOI4, it happens the same thing. Romania, Russia are they place you should go if you are planning to build your OIL economy.

One thing that this game really need are foreign investments. because If I'm not mistaken you are force to get some resources by conquest or by colonization. This way they can implement westernization.

Yeah i agree ... invest in industry in a foreign market would help them develop it so you are able to import what you need

[Prown]

There is not enough oil in the world to run one advanced economy on, never mind multiple.

Late game is literally just conquest of oil producing provinces and then building them up

but it's never enough... never enough...

[Flythos]

Originally posted by Prown:

There is not enough oil in the world to run one advanced economy on, never mind multiple.

Late game is literally just conquest of oil producing provinces and then building them up

but it's never enough... never enough...

true

[Talok]

Playing as Belgium, took the Dutch oil fields, Venezuela, Madagascar and other misc. oil fields. Tweaked my economy to use a mix of coal/oil based techs based on what I thought I needed. To me this was part of the fun ... NOT saying the production rates don't need to be changed however I think the lack of exploitation on the part of the AI is the issue.

Was in GB economic sphere and even though they controlled fields upon fields of undeveloped rubber plantations (the price of rubber was through the roof) they refused to develop them. It forced me, as Belgium, to engage in some sketchy activities to meet my rubber demands.