Nation differences

[Taran]

Am i missing something, or is there literally no difference between contries?
Same techs, politics and even political parties (just with different names) for everyone.

[manuto]

True

[Prown]

The Flavour is sorely missing, but they wanted to go against the "Railroading" of previous Vic 2.

Which seems odd cause they are essentially going the opposite route with EU4 by adding missions which sort of "rail roads" into a play style

Seems they know that people want flavour, but are using railroading as an excuse not to include it.

I'm sure we'll see lots of "Flavour" packs pop up for DLC after "Listening to player feedback" on the issue.

[Oaks]

I do miss the differences between nations like in EU4. I will say that my first four games (Sweden, Belgium, Sicily, and USA) have played differently enough to make me think I'll be entertained by the game for a while until some dlc hits.

[Ixal]

Flavor yes, railroads no. I do not want national ideas, decisions or missions and I was quite content with the old mission system in EU4 instead of the new national mission trees.

[akachanningen]

yes its completely void of special events to the point you forgot its supposed to be 19th century, no mass immigration to us, no scramble for africa, no nation's spring, no nothing.

it's bland as ♥♥♥♥.
You play 1 country and that's it, you've seen everything, played every government type possible, you can just wait for the next dlc to "add" content ( took and simplified from vic 2) just like ck3 but worst

[Oleary]

The differences in the countries are their starting laws, market conditions, etc. Japan is very different from China which is very different from the euro nations. I haven't stuck my head over to the New World, but I would guess the US would be different also. We use the same tools but from what I've seen (limited to 3 or 4 major nations), they play differently.

[Oaks]

Originally posted by Oleary:

The differences in the countries are their starting laws, market conditions, etc. Japan is very different from China which is very different from the euro nations. I haven't stuck my head over to the New World, but I would guess the US would be different also. We use the same tools but from what I've seen (limited to 3 or 4 major nations), they play differently.

I started up USA last night and had a blast. I had previously played three games with European powers, so playing the USA felt like playing a different game to me. It's a fascinating nation to play with so much room for expansion and so many different cultures present.

Edit: And you can start up as USA and release the south as "New Africa", which sounds like it'd be a fun ride to try to compete with USA.

[Oleary]

Sweden in the early 1800's was, like most in that region, an agricultural country. In the mid 1800's, during the industrial revolution, they were known for iron and steel. Neither desolate nor lacking in resources is typically associated with them.

[Rialm]

Biggest difference are the condition, like support, pops, goods etc There are also some interesting journals.

[Ixal]

Originally posted by akachanningen2:

yes its completely void of special events to the point you forgot its supposed to be 19th century, no mass immigration to us, no scramble for africa, no nation's spring, no nothing.

All of those things happen when there is a reason for them to happen, not because they are hardcoded.
If there is enough turmoil a migration target for a culture will be set and there will be mass migration and when Quinin and especially the malaria treatment spreads nations will grab Africa.

[Dao of Yakitori]

Originally posted by Taran:

Am i missing something, or is there literally no difference between contries?
Same techs, politics and even political parties (just with different names) for everyone.

Your missing the upcoming DLCs.

The game is barebone and obviously incomplete at this time. It's better to wait.

[Rodi]

just wait 4 years and multiply the buying price by 3-4
then you get the special flavour

[Oleary]

Originally posted by spasti696969:

Originally posted by Oleary:

Sweden in the early 1800's was, like most in that region, an agricultural country. In the mid 1800's, during the industrial revolution, they were known for iron and steel. Neither desolate nor lacking in resources is typically associated with them.

Actually it's the main reason the vikings left. It's certainly no Nebraska cornfields or African diamond mine. And comparing the 1800's industrial revolution in Sweden to the US and UK, lol. Every nation was "known for steel" by that standard.

The "Vikings" didn't leave the Scandinavian countries, they stopped raiding. About 800 years prior to the V3 era. The term viking (Vikingr) means raider. That's what they did. Over the years, we've associated them with a race. As to why they stopped raiding, historians to this day can't agree.

At what point did I compare Sweden to anyone?

[Oleary]

Originally posted by spasti696969:

Originally posted by Oleary:

The "Vikings" didn't leave the Scandinavian countries, they stopped raiding. About 800 years prior to the V3 era. The term viking (Vikingr) means raider. That's what they did. Over the years, we've associated them with a race. As to why they stopped raiding, historians to this day can't agree.

At what point did I compare Sweden to anyone?

Alright, you seem to have originally taken exception to my description of Sweden as "desolate and lacking resources". The landscape is known for its snow and rocky terrain. They named Greenland as such because the people from Iceland were trying to trick people into moving there. So desolation is an apt description, even if people from the region might take exception to it as a pejorative. And as far as resources, the only thing I can think of which is plentiful in the region is fish.

Also Romans cited the cold, darkness, and lack of resources as the reason they didn't feel the need to conquer the region. So there's that.

I took exception to it because it's inaccurate... Southern Sweden has very mild temps (30's to 70's - F), a mild winter (2 months), long summer (4 months) and plentiful rainfall. The northern areas while much colder offer some of the best landscapes on the planet including the Midnight Sun, northern lights, etc. Desolation is not an apt description for Sweden.
As to their resources, they're considered to be rich in natural resources including copper, silver, gold, lead, uranium, zinc, timber...
No idea what the name Greenland or the Roman's have to do with this tbh.

[XerxesThaGod]

its a major dissapointment in my view that there doesnt seem to be any world-buillding like there was in vic 2. i remember constant events in that game informing me of historical milestones; some even country dependant but this game feels devoid of all of that.