How are you supposed to form germany?

[|Nick]

I have annexed every german minor you start with in your customs union in the beginning and have pannationalism, but the hannoveranian minors doesnt want to join my customs union nor can I attack denmark for holstein, france for alsace or austria for another german state nor can I make a leadyship play, because even if I have good relations to other great power and no infamy at least two major powers join my enemy side.
I'm literally deadlocked to everyside.
How are you supposed to form germany at all? I had this situation in every attempt with prussia.

[Thargrim]

under "journal" u got an event for it at the start.
First u need to make the "northern Germany". U need 10 reagions from Germany under controll (annex or let them join your state) (not sure how it is called in eng, since i play in german)
Then u need the tech "pan-Nationalism". It will creat the next "journal event" to creat Germany. where u need 17 reagions under your controll.

Each event triggers the Ai to want to join your "tax union". For that to help the AI u need to have good relations with them. After a while in your "tax union" and good Relation, they ask if they can join your nation, so u can annex them.
After u got most the smaller nations, the Bigger ones like Soutch germany states and Austria are the only ones left mostly.

if that happens and u coudn't get Holstein u can start the "german unification war" under "population" at the 2. TAB. There u will have a Big war with Austria for the right to unification. Alle the states left that support u, will join u, all the nations that support Austria will join Austria in the war.
The looser looses the right to unify germany.
If u win u can creat at the same TAB in "Population" Germany, with all the states u got in your nation

hope that helped a bit :D

[|Nick]

Unfortunatly it doesn't help, because I'm still at the point that every big nation joins austria in a war against me

[Thargrim]

how bad is your diplo rep?

invest time info fixing realtions with big nations, that aren't allyed with austria. ^^

If u dindn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about diplo, then u made a mistake :D

[|Nick]

UK and russia like me. That doesnt stop them becoming hostil as soon as a diplo play is started. Atleast russia allies me.
I have a whopoing 4,5 infamy :/

[「Sk™」]

You improve relations with the german nations or you annex them.

[|Nick]

The relations are on max, but the southgerman states do not join me nor can I add the northgerman to my customsunion

[Thargrim]

Originally posted by |Nick:

UK and russia like me. That doesnt stop them becoming hostil as soon as a diplo play is started. Atleast russia allies me.
I have a whopoing 4,5 infamy :/

then austria payes them quiet a lot, so they join austria.
u can do the same at the "war prep" menu. u can give promisies of "loot" to them if your side wins. sometimes it will make them agree.
Start that diplo war when your rep is at 0. otherwise it's easier for other nations to join the deff side =)

[「Sk™」]

Originally posted by |Nick:

The relations are on max, but the southgerman states do not join me nor can I add the northgerman to my customsunion

You don't need in customs union. being max relations should make them auto join. The South Germans is really hard to get, that was the case in real life too.

[Thargrim]

Originally posted by |Nick:

The relations are on max, but the southgerman states do not join me nor can I add the northgerman to my customsunion

the southern german states are a "different" homeregion that Prussia (nothern germany)
thats why u can't annex them over the normal way, like u did with the others.

[MattoFever]

Under culture, you can challenge Austria for hegemony over the German states. Once you're the only applicable nation to unify Germany under, you can absorb all German minors with the Launch Unification Play button also under there.

[Pius Augustus]

Have exactly the same situation. Hannoverian states and southern german states do not respond to any diplo at all. Good relations do nothing.
If i make a diplomatic play i am alone against overwhelming numbers.

Start that diplo war when your rep is at 0. otherwise it's easier for other nations to join the deff side =)

How good that you get a lot if infamy by annexing all the minors. Stupid game.

[Johnny 5]

You accumulated too much aggressive expansion/bad boy points. Go to your own diplomacy screen and check your reputation. Anything over 10 and countries don't wanna help you out. But yeah the system is borked

[Mikebrowski]

Its easy to mess up REALLY EASY. DO not take down the Alsass Lorrien it will bug your game 100%