mexican american war never happens

[candiedaphid]

because backing down only concedes one single state, mexico can endlessly back down and concede one state for decades until you've got the territory ur supposed to have but ALSO america cant simply just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ invade. its dumb that i cant simply march in and take whatever tf i want regardless of the international consequences AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT MEXICO SAYS SINCE IM MORE POWERFUL THEN THEM AND I WANT TO FIGHT BUT THEY CAN SAY "NO I DONT WANT TO FIGHT HAVE CALIFORNIA" and thats it for a decade. ♥♥♥♥ that mechanic fr

[Toblm]

Congrats OP you're scary. I've never had mexico back down.

[Splatacus]

"only mobilize enough to be near their power level before the war, so they aren't "worried / terrified"after the war starts mobilize all you want." I dont know crap about this game, still trying to figure it out but this is what someone said in another post.

[candiedaphid]

it literally didnt matter what i did. i puppeted them, i subjugated them, then i outright annexed them. they backed down every time. this game is broken lmfao

[Toblm]

Originally posted by candiedaphid:

it literally didnt matter what i did. i puppeted them, i subjugated them, then i outright annexed them. they backed down every time. this game is broken lmfao

How many troops are on the front before the war starts?

[candiedaphid]

if i just want to go to war, i just want to go to war. idgaf if they back down or not, i want to invade and i should have the option of just invading if i so chose, is basically what im getting at. idk if thats a thing or not, but if a smaller, less advanced, weak ass country can simply cuck me out of 9 states by giving me one and i cant do ♥♥♥♥ about it, thats a dumb game mechanic.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by candiedaphid:

if i just want to go to war, i just want to go to war. idgaf if they back down or not, i want to invade and i should have the option of just invading if i so chose, is basically what im getting at. idk if thats a thing or not, but if a smaller, less advanced, weak ass country can simply cuck me out of 9 states by giving me one and i cant do ♥♥♥♥ about it, thats a dumb game mechanic.

Wrong sort of game. Global standing is important.
You asked for *thing,* they dont think fighting you over thing is worth it, they give it up, you go away for a while.

Trick them. Ask for something they cannot afford to give up. Make it look like they have a change to hold it. Its part of the strategy of the game.

[Simonson [29th Ret.]]

>Global standing is important.

Then penalize him, but don't just say "you can't".

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Simonson 29th ID:

>Global standing is important.

Then penalize him, but don't just say "you can't".

Thats not the mechanics of Vic 3. You dont get to just declare war. You start a diplomatic incidents, which have an out for both parties.

[candiedaphid]

and thats kinda dumb. not all wars are avoidable, some just have to happen no matter the power disparities. the fact i cant simply march in and take everything i want is silly when my army could physically cross the border and do so, but game mechanics wont let them.

[candiedaphid]

this game was supposed to be more "you can physically do it if you can deal with the consequences" and less "this little game mechanic blocks you from doing something you otherwise would be able to do and countries historically did all the time but bc we said so u cant with no explanation"

[Weasel999]

This is driving me crazy as well - I demanded the entire Southwest, not just one state. Don't give me that crap piecemeal, I want the whole damn thing and at this rate it'll take the next 40 years to get what I want.

Just let me declare war or give me everything I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ asked for. Do you really think I'd back down for just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Nevada?

[lubed_assassin]

well if you want some non-historical advice puppet instead of using the wargoal mexico should take 60-80 infamy, the limit is 100. In 10 years you can just annex the whole country.

Just watch out for radicals, puppets are actually op in this game.

[TasteDasRainbow]

You should be able to add more goals to your diplomatic play during the diplomatic phase of its escalation. For instance, playing Japan and getting claims on korea through the meiji restoration, you can only claim one part of it at a time, but once the play starts you can add other goals;

however, adding more goal can elevate infamy and make other nations, possibly powers, intervene against you.

[Unkie Himmy Johns]

Tbh just puppet Mexico great recourses like rubber oil and gold when u annex them plus another 60 soldier right into the field with mass conscription also u can just super size ur industry and make ur gdp do huge ups by just making most ur money off minning and tools America is the most op country in the game besides Prussia because of their easy to control stability gl I’ve only gotten 50 hours but I’ve gotten to 1.6b gdp with America and I’ve formed Germany Italy and the japanesss empire (doesn’t exist but I’ve gotten all the territory back)

[Scheneighnay]

I saw the same thing happen with AI US and Mexico, until it happened the same time that Mexico got into a civil war and it ended up with Mexico becoming a dominion of the US