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KFC-AI Oct 26, 2022 @ 3:18am
Noob Question: How to unite Sweden with Norway ?
I have started to understand the economic but not so much about how to turn Norway and Sweden into a true Union.
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i am in the same boat, i am waiting for the king of norway to die and hopefully i take over. I am assuming it is similar logic to EU4
KFC-AI Oct 26, 2022 @ 5:50am 
Originally posted by XI Mikalo:
i am in the same boat, i am waiting for the king of norway to die and hopefully i take over. I am assuming it is similar logic to EU4

Lol it is quite funny how the King live up to 94 years old when the average life expectancy of Sweden at that time is like 40.
PrivatePeachyButt Oct 26, 2022 @ 5:53am 
Originally posted by KFC-AI:
Originally posted by XI Mikalo:
i am in the same boat, i am waiting for the king of norway to die and hopefully i take over. I am assuming it is similar logic to EU4

Lol it is quite funny how the King live up to 94 years old when the average life expectancy of Sweden at that time is like 40.
That avarage life expectency is for a large part due to a much higher rate of infant/child mortality.
KFC-AI Oct 26, 2022 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by PrivatePeachyButt:
Originally posted by KFC-AI:

Lol it is quite funny how the King live up to 94 years old when the average life expectancy of Sweden at that time is like 40.
That avarage life expectency is for a large part due to a much higher rate of infant/child mortality.

Yes, that.

But it is also easy to forget how life was before modern medicine, especially anti-biotics. One tiny cut could mean death.
ZASZ Oct 26, 2022 @ 6:06am 
Life expectancy at birth was a brief 25 years during the Roman Empire, it peaked somewhere to 30 years by the Middle Ages and steadily raised up to 50 years by the 1900s.

In the Middle Ages, the average life span of those born in landholding families in Europe was somewhere in the ballpark of 31 years and the biggest danger was surviving childhood it's self due to diseases and various other factors like being killed due to living conditions. One of the biggest major cause of deaths was from infant mortality alone, something that was incredibly common all over the world.

It's very easy to take every progress we have right now for granted as back then stuff like medical practitioner board or food and drug safety enforcement bodies didn't even exist. During the early 19th century, anyone can literally just pay to get some certificate that says they are a doctor and open their own clinic to start treating patients with zero academic qualifications or medical experience.
KFC-AI Oct 26, 2022 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by ZASZ:
Life expectancy at birth was a brief 25 years during the Roman Empire, it peaked somewhere to 30 years by the Middle Ages and steadily raised up to 50 years by the 1900s.

In the Middle Ages, the average life span of those born in landholding families in Europe was somewhere in the ballpark of 31 years and the biggest danger was surviving childhood it's self due to diseases and various other factors like being killed due to living conditions. One of the biggest major cause of deaths was from infant mortality alone, something that was incredibly common all over the world.

It's very easy to take every progress we have right now for granted as back then stuff like medical practitioner board or food and drug safety enforcement bodies didn't even exist. During the early 19th century, anyone can literally just pay to get some certificate that says they are a doctor and open their own clinic to start treating patients with zero academic qualifications or medical experience.

I totally agree. I think up to the 19th century it was for example widely believed that a full meat diet and blood letting was good for your health.

And regarding European and Muslime nobles, one of the other horrifying things that they did was to intermarry with each other according to rank and status, even if it means that they are 1st degree cousins.

So they have stuff like blood disease and Habsburg Lippe running around.
Trackstar Oct 26, 2022 @ 7:08am 
Originally posted by KFC-AI:
Originally posted by XI Mikalo:
i am in the same boat, i am waiting for the king of norway to die and hopefully i take over. I am assuming it is similar logic to EU4

Lol it is quite funny how the King live up to 94 years old when the average life expectancy of Sweden at that time is like 40.
Im also playing sweden and the king is 100. Just waiting for him to die and get the inteligencia heir to finally do some reforms.
proto melon Nov 12, 2022 @ 12:50pm 
It's not like the eu4. You just need to research "pan-nationalism" then, go to cultures-> nation formation -> scandinavia. From then you need to launch unification play.
shiggies713 Nov 12, 2022 @ 3:37pm 
Originally posted by KFC-AI:
I totally agree. I think up to the 19th century it was for example widely believed that a full meat diet and blood letting was good for your health.

Wait, blood letting isn't good for your health?!?
proto melon Nov 13, 2022 @ 4:09am 
Originally posted by shiggies713:
Originally posted by KFC-AI:
I totally agree. I think up to the 19th century it was for example widely believed that a full meat diet and blood letting was good for your health.

Wait, blood letting isn't good for your health?!?

Well... It is commonly belived that it generally didn't work. But it was so commonly used because it did work. Back in the day the upper class had the best access to the health services, and the upper class... As said, they didnt always have the best diet. That often caused arterial hypertension, and with that chest pain, dizziness, fatigue, headaches etc. And so they called for a doctor, which decided to let some blood out. Because hypertension is caused by overpressure in the veins, having less blood the pressure fell and the simptoms dissapeared.
If I remember corectly blood letting was also decreesing the feaver. And while the hypertension was the most common health problem in the upper class, the fever was one of the most common death causes across all classes. And so said practice actually mostly worked :)
Horsemouth Nov 22, 2022 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by proto melon:
It's not like the eu4. You just need to research "pan-nationalism" then, go to cultures-> nation formation -> scandinavia. From then you need to launch unification play.

you also need to conquer some land from either denmark and/or finland. as you only have 8 scandanavia provinces at game start and need at least 11.
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