Victoria 3
Overheating PC
This game seems to overheat my PC as soon as I start a game (but it doesn't lag)

I have:
I7-10700KF CPU 3.8 gigahertz
32 gig ram
Plenty of space
(edit) galax geforce rtx 3070


I play HOI 4 on full settings without a problem and there is no reason I see that it should struggle to play this game

But there is something in this game which causes my computer to overheat
Anyone else experiencing this or have any Ideas of the cause?
Ultima modifica da Hamburger; 26 ott 2022, ore 1:45
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Messaggio originale di Hamburger:
This game seems to overheat my PC as soon as I start a game (but it doesn't lag)

I have:
I7-10700KF CPU 3.8 gigahertz
32 gig ram
Plenty of space
(edit) galax geforce rtx 3070


I play HOI 4 on full settings without a problem and there is no reason I see that it should struggle to play this game

But there is something in this game which causes my computer to overheat
Anyone else experiencing this or have any Ideas of the cause?
What temperature are you actually seeing on your CPU? The game is really CPU heavy so it will cook your CPU nicely if you have an air cooler. If your CPU is liquid cooled with a 240 or 260mm rad setup, you shouldn't be seeing temperatures pushing the thermal throttle limit.
But the newer gen CPUs do run hotter under load than older gen CPUs and this increase in heat isn't as bad. Used to be that 80-85C was scary, now it's 95C and up that's the danger zone.
Messaggio originale di KingGorillaKong:
But the newer gen CPUs do run hotter under load than older gen CPUs and this increase in heat isn't as bad. Used to be that 80-85C was scary, now it's 95C and up that's the danger zone.

Laughs hysterically in Apple Silicon...

My system barely runs above room temperature.
Ultima modifica da Desdinova; 18 nov 2022, ore 11:58
I like to fry eggs on my laptop while I play…that’s normal right?
Messaggio originale di Kimlin:
I like to fry eggs on my laptop while I play…that’s normal right?

Sure, if you're a genius/mad scientist like Adam Savage :P
--oh I miss Mythbusters ...
Where did you get eggs?
:cozyroe:
Messaggio originale di Blue Skull:
Where did you get eggs?
:cozyroe:
Oh I’m in the US. Sorry UK.
If anyone is still experiencing this try limiting your fps and enable vsync like was said earlier. It worked great for me, no more crashes since.

also no clouds mod is great.
Ultima modifica da JimBean; 18 nov 2022, ore 21:18
Messaggio originale di Hamburger:
This game seems to overheat my PC as soon as I start a game (but it doesn't lag)

I have:
I7-10700KF CPU 3.8 gigahertz
32 gig ram
Plenty of space
(edit) galax geforce rtx 3070


I play HOI 4 on full settings without a problem and there is no reason I see that it should struggle to play this game

But there is something in this game which causes my computer to overheat
Anyone else experiencing this or have any Ideas of the cause?
You can never cause a pc to overheat if it is put together right try reapplying thermal paste or getting a better cpu cooler
Messaggio originale di Average Ford Owner:
Messaggio originale di Hamburger:
This game seems to overheat my PC as soon as I start a game (but it doesn't lag)

I have:
I7-10700KF CPU 3.8 gigahertz
32 gig ram
Plenty of space
(edit) galax geforce rtx 3070


I play HOI 4 on full settings without a problem and there is no reason I see that it should struggle to play this game

But there is something in this game which causes my computer to overheat
Anyone else experiencing this or have any Ideas of the cause?
You can never cause a pc to overheat if it is put together right try reapplying thermal paste or getting a better cpu cooler


No I think you are wrong. There is an issue with this game and perhaps it is with i7 processors but there is a problem.

Cyberpunk works better than Victoria 3 on my rig.
As the game requires an AVX CPU (no big deal there)... however I therefore assume the game code makes extensive use of the AVX 512 instruction set... this will work your CPU very hard.. harder than other games... the majority of which don't use AVX... and hence generate more heat and hence higher temperatures...

Just fyi... CPU bench testing software uses AVX instructions to max out the CPU as part of bench testing process.

Just if your getting over 85 degC CPU temps for extended periods.. i suggest you look at better cooling or remove some of your overclock if you have it or if not overclocked don't run your CPU in "performance" mode in windows.. this will reduce the frequency of turbo boost of your cpu and hopefully help it run cooler,, alternatively try a slight CPU undervolt.

Ez
Ultima modifica da Eztrelle; 20 nov 2022, ore 4:08
yep i have to leave my case open or it gets really hot, but i have no issue just leaving my case open.

Edit: I would not mes with the cool paste on your cpu unless you really know what you are doing. I built this rig almost 10 years ago and have't really messed with it since. You absolutely do not need to be messing with your coolpaste every 2 years.
Ultima modifica da shiggies713; 20 nov 2022, ore 4:03
yea its poorly optimized, a lot of people have the same problems with actually new riggs

so no, its not you

ignore any of these "pc elitist" fools, funniest thing is they dont have good rigs either compared to some folks who have overheating/late game lagg problems as well
you really dont need to invest thousand dollars into cooling to play literally below average looking game on the market, thats idiotic

i literally have less problems running elden ring on ultra than running vic3 on high graphics

thats not normal, and ignore stupid people who think vic3 is more complex than elden ring, 8GB game compared to 70GB game rofl

PDX acknowledged there is a problem and they said they are working on it...
Ultima modifica da DinoMight; 20 nov 2022, ore 4:06
Messaggio originale di DinoMight:
yea its poorly optimized, a lot of people have the same problems with actually new riggs

so no, its not you

ignore any of these "pc elitist" fools, funniest thing is they dont have good rigs either compared to some folks who have overheating/late game lagg problems as well
you really dont need to invest thousand dollars into cooling to play literally below average looking game on the market, thats idiotic

i literally have less problems running elden ring on ultra than running vic3 on high graphics

thats not normal, and ignore stupid people who think vic3 is more complex than elden ring, 8GB game compared to 70GB game rofl

PDX acknowledged there is a problem and they said they are working on it...

You make some strange comparisons.. what has game file size got to do with this? Does Elden Ring make use of AVX calls? Do you know?

Your ignorance shines through like one of those fantsatic god beams in Elden Ring.. sadly though I find your ignorance not as appealing to behold.

Granted there are optimisation tweaks needed in Vic 3.. however I do believe overheating is probably a result of extensive CPU load over most other games as they are making use of AVX instructions. So you can probably cool your CPU right now by:

1.) Turn off windows "performance" mode.
2.) Turn down your overclock. (But the OP is not overclocked)
3.) Tweak and undervolt your CPU
4.) Improve your cooling.

Ez
Messaggio originale di Eztrelle:
Messaggio originale di DinoMight:
yea its poorly optimized, a lot of people have the same problems with actually new riggs

so no, its not you

ignore any of these "pc elitist" fools, funniest thing is they dont have good rigs either compared to some folks who have overheating/late game lagg problems as well
you really dont need to invest thousand dollars into cooling to play literally below average looking game on the market, thats idiotic

i literally have less problems running elden ring on ultra than running vic3 on high graphics

thats not normal, and ignore stupid people who think vic3 is more complex than elden ring, 8GB game compared to 70GB game rofl

PDX acknowledged there is a problem and they said they are working on it...

You make some strange comparisons.. what has game file size got to do with this? Does Elden Ring make use of AVX calls? Do you know?

Your ignorance shines through like one of those fantsatic god beams in Elden Ring.. sadly though I find your ignorance not as appealing to behold.

Granted there are optimisation tweaks needed in Vic 3.. however I do believe overheating is probably a result of extensive CPU load over most other games as they are making use of AVX instructions. So you can probably cool your CPU right now by:

1.) Turn off windows "performance" mode.
2.) Turn down your overclock. (But the OP is not overclocked)
3.) Tweak and undervolt your CPU
4.) Improve your cooling.

Ez


i love people like you when they openly show us that they cant read right from the start, or at least your comprehensive reading is non existent

you tell me right away that you are not worth talking to and i can ignore you so i dont waste time with you

i will repeat this once again as a last favor to you, because everything you said was countered/answered before you even started typing anything

"PDX acknowledged there is a problem and they said they are working on it..."

there if you tell me where are you from i will even use google translate for you so you can understand what that actually means
oh and try and find some coder in your vicinity because i wont even bother with you to explain it to you, but ask them, what is more complex to process and code, 8GB of data or 70GB of data? while you are at it google how many people worked on ER and how many people worked on Vic3
Ultima modifica da DinoMight; 20 nov 2022, ore 4:38
Messaggio originale di Mob:
Messaggio originale di Average Ford Owner:
You can never cause a pc to overheat if it is put together right try reapplying thermal paste or getting a better cpu cooler


No I think you are wrong. There is an issue with this game and perhaps it is with i7 processors but there is a problem.

Cyberpunk works better than Victoria 3 on my rig.
Cyberpunk is not anywhere near as heavy on CPU usage as Victoria 3.

And technically if you put your computer together properly, when your PC heats up too hot it will automatically shutdown to prevent overheating the hardware to the point of frying it entirely. JayzTwoCents has done several tests on this with a wide variety of CPUs. You can go as far back as 4th gen Intel and see this.

The issue is, you aren't actually disclosing what CPU you have and based on your commentary, and how the game actually works on the backend (CPU heavy, not GPU heavy), you have a CPU that is absolutely bottom end and it's struggling to run the game. It sounds like it has first generation support of AVX process, and this game NEEDS AVX. But first gen AVX absolutely sucked on Intel CPUs.

Just because the system minimum requirements calls for i3 3rd gen, doesn't mean ALL CPUs newer and higher tier than an i3 will run it. If it's 4 core, you don't have enough cores and threads. Though some newer 4 cores might not crash out, but they'll get extremely hot trying to run the game. Then your CPU thermal throttles and if it stays hot, it will shut off before the CPU is damaged.
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