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LongVin Oct 25, 2022 @ 6:17pm
Any way to integrate a personal union into the main nation?
I'm playing as Sweden and I want to make Norway part of Sweden proper but there doesn't seem to be anyway to actually interact with them through the diplomacy screen or an option to fully make them part of Swden.
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Ninjakuchen Oct 28, 2022 @ 12:21am 
If you get your relations with Denmark up (or at least I assume, that is what has done it in my game, perhaps it has more factors), they can declare you to be the rightful candidate to form Scandinavia. Under "Cultures" -> "Nation formation" you can see what else is included there. Upon being able to found Scandinavia, Norway will be annexed.

What I find weird in this, is that Denmark had Holstein in a PU and now I got Holstein in a PU, instead of integrating them as well. Also there is apparently no system (that I can find) akin to "Claims" from EU4, meaning that my Scnadinavia button is gone (since I used it) and PUs seem to only annex on country formation, so now I have to find another way to integrate Holstein (probably demoting them to a Puppet, and then using a Diplomatic Play, but can't tell yet if that will work) and since Finland is in a PU with Russia I seem to have lost my Scandinavia "claims" on Finland

/edit
Okay, I have now found that claims are indeed in the game...
Wasn't that hard to find really...
Last edited by Ninjakuchen; Oct 28, 2022 @ 4:01am
mrfantastik1 Oct 28, 2022 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Ninjakuchen:
If you get your relations with Denmark up (or at least I assume, that is what has done it in my game, perhaps it has more factors), they can declare you to be the rightful candidate to form Scandinavia. Under "Cultures" -> "Nation formation" you can see what else is included there. Upon being able to found Scandinavia, Norway will be annexed.

What I find weird in this, is that Denmark had Holstein in a PU and now I got Holstein in a PU, instead of integrating them as well. Also there is apparently no system (that I can find) akin to "Claims" from EU4, meaning that my Scnadinavia button is gone (since I used it) and PUs seem to only annex on country formation, so now I have to find another way to integrate Holstein (probably demoting them to a Puppet, and then using a Diplomatic Play, but can't tell yet if that will work) and since Finland is in a PU with Russia I seem to have lost my Scandinavia "claims" on Finland

/edit
Okay, I have now found that claims are indeed in the game...
Wasn't that hard to find really...

Where are the claims? I still haven't found them
teron Oct 28, 2022 @ 12:41pm 
Alternatively, you can damage relations to the point that you are able to puppet them. Then do it again to annex ones the truce is over.

Had to do this in my Russia game to get direct control of Finland who was in a personal union.
Ninjakuchen Oct 28, 2022 @ 3:48pm 
Originally posted by mrfantastik1:
Originally posted by Ninjakuchen:
If you get your relations with Denmark up (or at least I assume, that is what has done it in my game, perhaps it has more factors), they can declare you to be the rightful candidate to form Scandinavia. Under "Cultures" -> "Nation formation" you can see what else is included there. Upon being able to found Scandinavia, Norway will be annexed.

What I find weird in this, is that Denmark had Holstein in a PU and now I got Holstein in a PU, instead of integrating them as well. Also there is apparently no system (that I can find) akin to "Claims" from EU4, meaning that my Scnadinavia button is gone (since I used it) and PUs seem to only annex on country formation, so now I have to find another way to integrate Holstein (probably demoting them to a Puppet, and then using a Diplomatic Play, but can't tell yet if that will work) and since Finland is in a PU with Russia I seem to have lost my Scandinavia "claims" on Finland

/edit
Okay, I have now found that claims are indeed in the game...
Wasn't that hard to find really...

Where are the claims? I still haven't found them

When you look at a province there is a field for claims, in my game for example in the finnish provinces, but as far as I can tell right now there doesn't seem to be a way to specifically act on these claims. They probably reduce infamy, when conquering these territories, or something.
Samiol Oct 28, 2022 @ 10:11pm 
I gained a claim as Greece to cultural the Cultural areas, held by the Ottomans.

There is a nation mission for Byzantiom so, idk if that holds claims.
Heraclius Caesar Oct 28, 2022 @ 10:17pm 
Originally posted by Samiol | Hamariks Bretan-Theodi:
There is a nation mission for Byzantiom

Oh yea?
Samiol Oct 28, 2022 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Heraclius Caesar:
Originally posted by Samiol | Hamariks Bretan-Theodi:
There is a nation mission for Byzantiom

Oh yea?

With the same flag as in EUIV
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Date Posted: Oct 25, 2022 @ 6:17pm
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