DnL Mobile 2nd Beta Test Launch

[CanPanther]

Originally posted by "Translated from Chinese":

True sandbox, true domestication, the second elite test of "Dark and Light Mobile Games" starts today

2021/04/22

Today, the second elite test of the magic sandbox "Dark and Light Mobile Games" has officially opened. This test has fully optimized the survival, adventure, and system of the game, and provided the first batch of 32 creatures that can be tamed and brought A new magical adventure.

The second elite test of "Dark and Light Mobile Games" adopts an invitation system. At present, the official has issued test qualifications to players who have completed the questionnaire and meet the requirements. Players who have obtained the activation code or TF test invitation email can use the official website and the official WeChat public Download the Android/IOS client through channels such as number and other channels. This test will open the PC desktop simultaneously. Players can download and install on the official website and log in to the PC desktop version by scanning the code.

Orthodox sandbox, interactive construction is free

"Dark and Light Mobile Games" adheres to the original survival sandbox gameplay. In the game, players can interact with most objects in the environment, and hunting, gathering, and construction are not restricted.

As long as the corresponding knowledge is studied, players can unlock all the buildings and facilities in the game, and can create their own personal territory according to their wishes, or cooperate with their companions to establish a magnificent guild territory.

Tame creatures and obtain powerful survival partners

In this test, the taming gameplay of "Dark and Light Mobile Games" is officially opened, and players can taming 32 kinds of creatures through different tools and equipment. Different from the common "Ghost Fighting Assistant", the creatures in "Dark and Light Mobile Games" are of great help to players in all aspects of the game.

In terms of combat, players can either carry creatures to cooperate in combat, or they can be stationed in buildings as guardian beasts to defend their homes. In terms of collection, players can ride creatures to collect various resources and obtain additional output, or they can be placed in a mini resource world to produce characteristic material drops.

Cross-server gameplay, free choice of game mode

In order to meet the different preferences of players, "Dark and Light Mobile Games" opened a cross-server system in this test. After the player creates a character, it will be randomly assigned to any plain clothes (PVE server), and through the sacred passage of Novice Village, they can shuttle between plain clothes at will. In peace clothes, before level 30 is the novice protection stage, no items on the player will drop.

The PVP server is divided into a declaration of war and a more free melee. Players need to reach levels 31 and 51 respectively to enter. While the degree of danger increases, they will also get a faster growth rate and more Rich resource output, enjoy more game fun.

Players can enjoy the rural life in the peace service, or go to the declaration of war service and the conscious melee service to experience the adventurous excitement, or build a resource supply base for the guild in the peace service, and then fight PVP with friends.

In this test, the game has added more rich content. We look forward to your exploration. If you encounter any problems during the test, you are welcome to provide feedback through the in-game feedback channel. The Black Light project team looks forward to your valuable suggestions. You work together to improve the game and create a more free and exciting magical sandbox world.

[123]

So the whole legal agreement they signed stating they can't release it anywhere before they release it on steam means nothing as normal.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

[davewegg123]

This genre sucks on mobiles and tablets period BAD move if it's true there making a mobile version of it.

[CanPanther]

Originally posted by davewegg123:

if it's true there making a mobile version of it.

Oh, believe it, it's true:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/529180/discussions/0/3123786787139185002/

[drlovefist]

After playing the PC version, I'd rather grind my fingertips off and dip the tips in lemon juice than ever see the developers peddle another unpolished turd. I truly feel sorry for anyone who invested money in this game and paid full price for the absolute trash the developers drug them through.

[Saelwinn]

I wish the DEVs would pick this game back up and make it what it can be!! I really enjoy this game and I know others do as well. If they are taking a stab at the mobile app maybe they will revisit the PC version . I know I can dream right?

[Danteska]

Originally posted by cheylj:

I wish the DEVs would pick this game back up and make it what it can be!! I really enjoy this game and I know others do as well. If they are taking a stab at the mobile app maybe they will revisit the PC version . I know I can dream right?

Development has shifted from PC so that they can release the mobile port this year. Development will shift back to PC after that.

Source - Community Manager said it on the official discord two weeks ago.

[CanPanther]

Originally posted by Danteska:

Source - Community Manager said it on the official discord two weeks ago.

That would be the same '3rd hand' announcement previously mentioned in other posts. The exact same thing was also said last year, and neither was backed up with an official confirmation and/or announcement from anywhere or anyone else within Snail Games.

When people have been misled as much as the players here have, actions speak for themselves. Or lack thereof. The last bugfix was Sept. 2019. Between then and now, 3 other Snail games have been abandoned w/o a word to their players, after spending less time in EA than this game; in 2 cases, around a year of EA each (DnL turns 4 this month).

So, imo, words coming thru the grapevine are not good enough anymore. Until I see something official, it means nothing. You should be a little more cautious as well.

[Cassian]

Originally posted by Danteska:

Originally posted by cheylj:

I wish the DEVs would pick this game back up and make it what it can be!! I really enjoy this game and I know others do as well. If they are taking a stab at the mobile app maybe they will revisit the PC version . I know I can dream right?

Development has shifted from PC so that they can release the mobile port this year. Development will shift back to PC after that.

Source - Community Manager said it on the official discord two weeks ago.

BS, if they had been working on this game for the last 2 years they would have been keeping the community informed. Otherwise everyone would believe the game is abandoned and sales would tank. No dev would spend years working on an EA game and not make a single public statement about it. Believing that load of garbage is just wishful thinking.

[Grumpy Old Gamer]

Originally posted by Danteska:

Originally posted by cheylj:

I wish the DEVs would pick this game back up and make it what it can be!! I really enjoy this game and I know others do as well. If they are taking a stab at the mobile app maybe they will revisit the PC version . I know I can dream right?

Development has shifted from PC so that they can release the mobile port this year. Development will shift back to PC after that.

Source - Community Manager said it on the official discord two weeks ago.

I had many fun hours playing this game but these silly posts about how the game will restart being updated on the pc is just rumours with zero substance,so if anyone is thinking about buying the game, remember you are buying an abandoned game.

[Danteska]

Actually, a message was posted in the #announcements channel of the official discord just last night. It's regarding the DNL Mobile CBT, which will happen in late August 2021 and there's a link to sign up. It will have a PC desktop version to download and you'll be able to play by scanning a QR code with your phone.

But the post also states the following:

Also, a reminder: The 'Rework Update' for Dark and Light on PC is still ongoing. We hope that with the release of DnL on mobile, along with reworking the PC version in an effort to push toward full release - that Dark and Light will be set up for a bright future.

So I don't think the rumours are unfounded or with zero substance :) The game obviously has very nice lore and world-building and just needs some polish to become good.

[CanPanther]

...and yet still no official announcement here. Go figure. I know who made the post on Discord too, and he's always been told as much as we have: nothing. Last December, when the mobile went into its first beta, he spent weeks trying to get an answer out of both Snail USA and Snail China. So it's his job as an unpaid volunteer to keep the spin going and that's it.

This version of the game has been abandoned. Get used to the idea.

[Cassian]

Originally posted by Danteska:

Actually, a message was posted in the #announcements channel of the official discord just last night. It's regarding the DNL Mobile CBT, which will happen in late August 2021 and there's a link to sign up. It will have a PC desktop version to download and you'll be able to play by scanning a QR code with your phone.

But the post also states the following:

Also, a reminder: The 'Rework Update' for Dark and Light on PC is still ongoing. We hope that with the release of DnL on mobile, along with reworking the PC version in an effort to push toward full release - that Dark and Light will be set up for a bright future.

So I don't think the rumours are unfounded or with zero substance :) The game obviously has very nice lore and world-building and just needs some polish to become good.

I still say BS, if they were doing this work the platform where they sell the game would be informed as well as the official website. They wouldnt keep the handful off people on discord informed and not tell anyone on steam .....where they sell the game.

[CanPanther]

Originally posted by Cassian:

I still say BS, if they were doing this work the platform where they sell the game would be informed as well as the official website. They wouldnt keep the handful off people on discord informed and not tell anyone on steam .....where they sell the game.

That's my biggest issue. They are completely bypassing Steam with this mobile version. They've had 2 betas so far, one already included the PC port, and a 3rd is apparently coming at the end of August.

And yet, not one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ word on Steam. If they were actually working on something for us, other than a replacement that looks like it will be sold outside of Steam, then we'd be getting a lot more than just silence and/or information thru the 'grapevine'. Personally, I don't think the PC port is even meant for Steam.

So show me different, Snail. At this point, that's the only way I'll believe anything coming from this company and their lackey on Discord.

[Quickhand69er]

Originally posted by 123:

So the whole legal agreement they signed stating they can't release it anywhere before they release it on steam means nothing as normal.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess

That is not stated anywhere on that page. As a matter of fact the only thing I found that Could include a mobile game was...
Rule 4 Don't overcharge Steam customers. The Early Access price of your game should be no higher than that offered on any other service or website. Please take care of your customers on Steam.
Any other service or website may include mobile but there was nothing about not being able to release it some where else.

Rule 3 Steam Early Access titles need to be available to customers through Steam. If Steam enables your Early Access game, we expect you to have the Early Access game available for sale on the Steam store. Do not offer it for sale on Steam any later than you offer it anywhere else.
Says right there that they can offer it else where at the same time as Steam.

Originally posted by CanPanther:

Originally posted by Cassian:

I still say BS, if they were doing this work the platform where they sell the game would be informed as well as the official website. They wouldnt keep the handful off people on discord informed and not tell anyone on steam .....where they sell the game.

That's my biggest issue. They are completely bypassing Steam with this mobile version. They've had 2 betas so far, one already included the PC port, and a 3rd is apparently coming at the end of August.

And yet, not one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ word on Steam. If they were actually working on something for us, other than a replacement that looks like it will be sold outside of Steam, then we'd be getting a lot more than just silence and/or information thru the 'grapevine'. Personally, I don't think the PC port is even meant for Steam.

So show me different, Snail. At this point, that's the only way I'll believe anything coming from this company and their lackey on Discord.

I also do not think that they will ever do any more with this game. There has been no updates but a few small fix's in May 2019, over 2 years ago. Server shut downs and transfers because they wont update the game and a lot of people do not want to play.

[CanPanther]

Originally posted by Quickhand69er:

I also do not think that they will ever do any more with this game. There has been no updates but a few small fix's in May 2019, over 2 years ago. Server shut downs and transfers because they wont update the game and a lot of people do not want to play.

The last bug fix was actually in Sept. 2019. I consider everything afterwards, the Halloween event and the permanent 2x harvest/EXP implementation, to be content tweaks, not real bug fixes.

I think a lot of people -want- to play the game but unfortunately Snail's lack of action and communication has pushed those people away. The week before the current 2021 Steam Summer Sale, this game was hitting between a high of 100 people online and a low of 34, according to the numbers on BattleMetrics, the player management app for DnL. And, as always with a sale, the numbers climbed significantly. But unfortunately as soon as they learn about Snail's lack of commitment, those new people bail and the game's population tanks. This has happened again and again over the course of the last 4 years (we're 6 days away from the 4 year anniversary of the game's EA release). Even Snail recognizes the game's potential or else they wouldn't be trying to create a 2nd iteration of the game on mobile.