Farming and Irrigation Setup

[sebo]

i spent some time putting this together in hopes it will help others who may be frustrated or having problems.

i hope snail will continue to improve the gardening aspect in this game. as i would love to see different building materials for building a greenhouse and perhaps even different plot sizes (like square / rectangular).

if anyone would like to add anything, or see something that needs correction, feel free to share. I will likely update this information more, but i think it's a good start.

cheers.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1121773565

[blokje]

nice guide but you do know that it is more easy to just level up your vendors and buy the food you need from them... ours are level 9 and they sell 25 of each food and 1 mystical you can buy that every ingame day....

[sebo]

yes, i am aware you can level the vendors and get everything easily that way. doesn't mean you can't have fun farming

IRL i also prefer growing what i eat ;-)

[blokje]

i would love that they made farming actually worth it but as of now it just isnt

[Socrates Johnson]

Originally posted by sebo:

yes, i am aware you can level the vendors and get everything easily that way. doesn't mean you can't have fun farming

IRL i also prefer growing what i eat ;-)

But it's not fun, it's an unnecessary grind. It's good for cores but the amount of grinding you have to do to keep them growing is crazy.

[sebo]

Originally posted by Thulsa Doom:

But it's not fun, it's an unnecessary grind. It's good for cores but the amount of grinding you have to do to keep them growing is crazy.

if you read the guide then you would see that it doesn't have to be a grind..
medium fertilizer requires 100 grass, 20 charcoal and 10 rotten meat.

ALL of the items are byproducts of just playing the game. i get the charcoal from cooking/lighting. it's a resources that is plentiful if you play the game in a normal way.

grass? swing a sword a few times in the bushes or hop on a boar and go for a ride.. you have an inventory FULL of berries, grass, spores, twine, wood...

gotten meat? geez, my Bargesh gets like 15 of them for every skeleton/wraith kill. you don't even need to let it spoil!

as ive said, small/medium bags is really all you need. in the guide, i grew 12 plots of Cooking herb in medium plots. each plot i added two bags of fertilizer for a total of 180,000. at 150,000 i already have a crop of Herb..

sure farming could use improvements, but it's really not that bad of a "grind" like some say it is. once the crop is established the use of fertilizer becomes less..

[Hunter83]

I have 6 large and 3 smalls for cooking herbs and its not that bad if i put one game sesion to geting medium fert I have enoff for the month I use a 166 longhorn for grass then a mastadon for wood ( but I alwas have wood since I am apparently a Mithrile ingot factory ) rotten meat I alwas have too much of thanks to panther

[sebo]

updated with new stuff like watering plots from water bottles (in an emergency) , filling water bottles, tips, pics and yadda, yadda, ja ja ja... ;-)

[Socrates Johnson]

Originally posted by sebo:

if you read the guide then you would see that it doesn't have to be a grind..
medium fertilizer requires 100 grass, 20 charcoal and 10 rotten meat.

ALL of the items are byproducts of just playing the game. i get the charcoal from cooking/lighting. it's a resources that is plentiful if you play the game in a normal way.

grass? swing a sword a few times in the bushes or hop on a boar and go for a ride.. you have an inventory FULL of berries, grass, spores, twine, wood...

gotten meat? geez, my Bargesh gets like 15 of them for every skeleton/wraith kill. you don't even need to let it spoil!

as ive said, small/medium bags is really all you need. in the guide, i grew 12 plots of Cooking herb in medium plots. each plot i added two bags of fertilizer for a total of 180,000. at 150,000 i already have a crop of Herb..

sure farming could use improvements, but it's really not that bad of a "grind" like some say it is. once the crop is established the use of fertilizer becomes less..

Cooking herbs aren't the problem, it's the ones that grow cores and required for both feeds that are. It requires at least 4 plots with each requiring significantly more fertilizer than cooking herbs do. You can use medium fertilizer but you'll need at least 10 for each plot for one day. Each plot. You can do large but you need shards, at least 2 large per plot for one day.

Then when you're finally done growing enough to cook a few feed you realize you could have just bought it from the vendor...

I had a single cooking herb plot. One large fertilizer lasted for days. In my other large plots for feed I needed between 2 and 3 large fertilizer for each plot each day, unless they were full grown but when they were I picked them for feed.

EDIT: Oh and this was on a server with 2x grow speed.

[Socrates Johnson]

EDIT: You're a rude asswipe

[sebo]

i agree. there is definitely room for improvement on the larger plots. since i think fertilizer consumption is a bit too much on the larger plots compared to medium. it should not be more than double the usage.. which i think it is..

give them time, im sure they will tweak the large plots s bit more. personally, i think they should do away with the magic shards on the large bags.. that will improve crafting them much better.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Thulsa Doom:

By the way though, the guide is good. The problem is the usefulness of farming and time required vs using a vendor. I wound up with 100 carnivore feed in a short time from the vendor. Trying to farm and cook it myself would have taken forever, I don't even want to estimate exactly how long.

I'm near the Elf city. Does someone have a guide for how to get the feed and from which vendor?

Also I could only find two vendors. Maybe the others were killed on the official server I play on?

[wildbill]

Originally posted by sebo:

Originally posted by Thulsa Doom:

But it's not fun, it's an unnecessary grind. It's good for cores but the amount of grinding you have to do to keep them growing is crazy.

if you read the guide then you would see that it doesn't have to be a grind..
medium fertilizer requires 100 grass, 20 charcoal and 10 rotten meat.

ALL of the items are byproducts of just playing the game. i get the charcoal from cooking/lighting. it's a resources that is plentiful if you play the game in a normal way.

grass? swing a sword a few times in the bushes or hop on a boar and go for a ride.. you have an inventory FULL of berries, grass, spores, twine, wood...

gotten meat? geez, my Bargesh gets like 15 of them for every skeleton/wraith kill. you don't even need to let it spoil!

as ive said, small/medium bags is really all you need. in the guide, i grew 12 plots of Cooking herb in medium plots. each plot i added two bags of fertilizer for a total of 180,000. at 150,000 i already have a crop of Herb..

sure farming could use improvements, but it's really not that bad of a "grind" like some say it is. once the crop is established the use of fertilizer becomes less..

Great guide BTW, but I don't think you should emphasize how easy it is. It is still a grind no matter how smart you are about it.

I'm playing on an official server. I agree with you on most items, but my Boar does not in any way get enough grass to even make the medium fertilizer I'd need, let alone even one large fertilizer. I can make a few small, that is about it. I'm thinking about taming a Stag, which is the first thing you can tame about the same time you can begin to grow crops.

One thing that is a grind that you don't even mention, is all the stuff I've had to make and just drop on the ground to level up enough to get to where I can make the Large plot.

Maybe I just don't have the patience you do or the time. I spent about 12 hours of grinding to setup an area to grow crops, the foundations, the plots, the tanks, the compost bins. So far, this has to be the most grindy thing I've done in the game so far. I'm really thinking twice about doing it at all.

[Kraft51]

Originally posted by billwerth2:

Originally posted by Thulsa Doom:

By the way though, the guide is good. The problem is the usefulness of farming and time required vs using a vendor. I wound up with 100 carnivore feed in a short time from the vendor. Trying to farm and cook it myself would have taken forever, I don't even want to estimate exactly how long.

I'm near the Elf city. Does someone have a guide for how to get the feed and from which vendor?

Also I could only find two vendors. Maybe the others were killed on the official server I play on?

the vendors now respawn, theres only 2 outside ... the one outside the stables and the blacksmith. the others are inside the 3 buildings to the other side of town square. the very first building holds the magic alter for crafting spells and such. the next 3 have the vendors, the first buys rotten meat and charcoal and sells red cap mushies and other alchemy related items. the second sells magic related items and the third is the food stuffs vendor.

i beleive theres one more over the bridge on the left side at the end of town square but i'm unable to recall what they buy/sell.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Kraft51:

Originally posted by billwerth2:

I'm near the Elf city. Does someone have a guide for how to get the feed and from which vendor?

Also I could only find two vendors. Maybe the others were killed on the official server I play on?

the vendors now respawn, theres only 2 outside ... the one outside the stables and the blacksmith. the others are inside the 3 buildings to the other side of town square. the very first building holds the magic alter for crafting spells and such. the next 3 have the vendors, the first buys rotten meat and charcoal and sells red cap mushies and other alchemy related items. the second sells magic related items and the third is the food stuffs vendor.

i beleive theres one more over the bridge on the left side at the end of town square but i'm unable to recall what they buy/sell.

Thanks. I'm going to look into how well these vendors work instead of farming or in addition to farming.

I've brought up two sets of farms on unofficial servers. Having about 8 to 20 plots is no big deal on an unofficial with 10x rates. I harvested all the grass I needed with a sword or a long horn. Getting the meat was best done with a panther though.

On an official server, there are plenty of roadblocks. Just taming a decent mount to gather resources can take hours of time. If you don't farm, you don't really need most tames, other than a good bird and probably a bahamut.

[sebo]

yeah there is nothing wrong with doing both.. farming and getting some stuff from npcs.
sure farming is not required since you can level up al the merchants and get everything that way, but farming does have added bonus from havesting some crops and getting some other resources.. elemental cores, lucky clover, more seeds to sell (like the harder to come by seeds), etc..

just planted a darkweed crop and after a day i had about 6 dark elemental cores without having to kill anything or harvesting from meteors (which doesnt even guarantee elemental cores). by farming you will have a stream of cores whcih are essential.