How does basic construction work?

[Augoeides]

A friend is telling me to get Citadel: Forged by Fire, but this game seems much closer to my own preferences, since it's been described as Skyrim with building. So, I already had a post here asking about gameplay in general, but no one really seems to be talking about base building, except that apparently "Protection" is broken at the moment.

How does it work? How soon can you start making a house, right at the beginning? I assume building materials come in Tiers, is it time consuimg to gather the early Tiers?

How are things assembled, is it like Minecraft (many pieces at a time), or more like ARK/Conan, where you through down large pieces/sections, like a floor, some walls, then a roof?

Does the game use realistic physics, or do things just hang in the air, once you manage to get them off the ground?

[Onyxdragun]

Think of it like Ark's building mechanics.
You need to first gather the materials and unlock the skills. You start out with Straw (aka Thatch) then move on to wood etc. I haven't built too much yet just a simple building so far.

[Kahlex]

Hello,

You can start making a house as soon as you enter the game.
It works by tiers.
Takes a lot of farming to build something decent.
Works like conan/ark, foundations, walls, roof, doorframe + door, etc..
While it does use realistic physics, aka anything above gets destroyed when you destroy the foundation or pillars, there is some bugs still where some roofs can still be floating without support after destroying the pillars. But that will get fixed in time.

Hope that helps!

[ArchieVision]

If you have played Ark then that is almost exactly how building it. When i say building, I mean the placement of the items. But, the way you unlock the 7 different building tiers is totally different from Ark, You have to do certian tasks to rank up in a peticular tree. Take for instance, stone building tier. Gathering stone, and building stone pieces wil rank you up more and unlock more pieces you can build.

This is nothing like Maindcraft. And the Pipes for irrigation will float in the air because of the current game pysics, but that will be corrected later int eh EA.

I am now to the point I am starting to make the Elven Manor pieces. They are so expensive, but well worth it. the Architectur is beautiful and unique. I cannot wait until I am finished with it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340101700583161858/342389186445180939/20170802143208_1.jpg

[Augoeides]

Originally posted by aoa|CptRoch:

Hello,

You can start making a house as soon as you enter the game.
It works by tiers.
Takes a lot of farming to build something decent.
Works like conan/ark, foundations, walls, roof, doorframe + door, etc..
While it does use realistic physics, aka anything above gets destroyed when you destroy the foundation or pillars, there is some bugs still where some roofs can still be floating without support after destroying the pillars. But that will get fixed in time.

Hope that helps!

I've got hundreds of hours logged into Conan Exiles, so this helps a lot. Since people talk about it so little, I was worried that the construction system in D&L was poorly done. Might have to give it a buy tonight, and try for myself.

Did they ever release that big patch? How stable is the game now, compared to before?

[Kahlex]

Conan Exiles is very stable. The big patch adding to the north of the map, and then some, will be on the 16th this month. Climbing is already in and works great :)

[Augoeides]

Originally posted by aoa|CptRoch:

Conan Exiles is very stable. The big patch adding to the north of the map, and then some, will be on the 16th this month. Climbing is already in and works great :)

I meant the big patch for Dark and Light :P

[Kahlex]

Lol, sorry I misred there!
No idea about the DnL patch yet :)

[ArchieVision]

DnL will probably have a patch toward the end of this week, aor the end of next. If they follow the traditional WC update release for launch that is. WC would release big updates every 2 to 4 weeks. And small ones whenever they fely like it.

[Socrates Johnson]

Originally posted by Rabid Wombat:

I've got hundreds of hours logged into Conan Exiles, so this helps a lot. Since people talk about it so little, I was worried that the construction system in D&L was poorly done. Might have to give it a buy tonight, and try for myself.

Did they ever release that big patch? How stable is the game now, compared to before?

Building in DnL is nowhere near as forgiving as in Conan. There's no stacking foundations and no placing them just anywhere - you need a lot of very flat land to build anything large.

Devs seem to have enabled collision with foundations or something because the slightest slope or something hidden just under the terrain obstructs them.

I have a lot of hours logged in Conan too and when I found what I thought was a great spot to build in DnL I was disappointed to see that the slight slope near my original building totally prevents me from expanding, and even using columns isn't working because there are things under that slope preventing building entirely.

Who cares about that though when the core gameplay in DnL is far and away better than Conan. I can easily live with more restrictive building when there's actual game content.

[Augoeides]

So, I caved in and bought the game, been playing it the past four hours... Everytime I tried to build a home, a monster teleported out of nowhere and killed me. Lost all my junk recently too, cause Black Bears and Panthers seem to come/teleport out of nowhere and destroy you.

I really wish someone would have explained to me how terrible the current state of the servers are. I know the game is Early Access, but during my playtime, I found no bugs, just a completely terrible server latency that left me wishing I could return the game. I guess I have no choice, but to wait a few weeks (or months probably), for the developers to decide that their servers need to operate off something better than Dial Up.

[ArchieVision]

Let me guess, you are playing official? My server has very little lag, and even less rubberbanding. Official servers are trash atm. they are using some really cheap server hardware that cannot keep up with the data set used.

If you want a beter experience, go find a good private server. There you will see that it is quite fun and engaging.

The mobs you are running into, are they Skellingtons and Reapers? If so, there is an event ingame that sends these down with Meateors. About 2 to 6 of the meteors will land around your house at one time, unleashing anywhere from 1 to 4 of them from each meteor. They do not drope too close to town. The event that is, meteors do, but not the event ones. This event will last 30 minutes, with the meteors dropping one after another for 30 minutes. You get some awesome stuff, but it is hell if you are low level.

Built your 1st house really close to the starter city, and be on the lookout for DarkFallen, and Dark Reapers that will roam around the netoer that fall within normal gameplay. They have desigbated places to fall, and the metoers can be blocked from falling if you build where they fall.

[xXBulletJusticeXx]

Originally posted by Rabid Wombat:

Originally posted by aoa|CptRoch:

Hello,

You can start making a house as soon as you enter the game.
It works by tiers.
Takes a lot of farming to build something decent.
Works like conan/ark, foundations, walls, roof, doorframe + door, etc..
While it does use realistic physics, aka anything above gets destroyed when you destroy the foundation or pillars, there is some bugs still where some roofs can still be floating without support after destroying the pillars. But that will get fixed in time.

Hope that helps!

I've got hundreds of hours logged into Conan Exiles, so this helps a lot. Since people talk about it so little, I was worried that the construction system in D&L was poorly done. Might have to give it a buy tonight, and try for myself.

Did they ever release that big patch? How stable is the game now, compared to before?

The game is quite stable as far as not crashing alot.. it is still VERY VERY Early Access so do not expect polish yet.

If you want a more polished game, go play Citadel and come back to this one once it has been around more than a week lol

[G Jr]

Building is very rough at the moment. You will have issues trust me. When/if mods become available, ones like "structure plus" completely will change it favorably.

[Cobretti]

Originally posted by Rabid Wombat:

So, I caved in and bought the game, been playing it the past four hours... Everytime I tried to build a home, a monster teleported out of nowhere and killed me. Lost all my junk recently too, cause Black Bears and Panthers seem to come/teleport out of nowhere and destroy you.

You are building in the wrong spot. Move.

Do not build near any meteor drop as the mobs that spawn from it will destroy you and your base, even when you are offline.

If you see heaps of dangerous creatures like Panthers, move. They too will trash your base when offline. The map is huge, lots of safe spots.

Try and find a spot where no one else is around, this means it is less likely that your base gets rendered by a player passing by so no chance for your base to get smashed while offline.

I mentioned offline a lot because if you are having problems while online, you wont have a base when you log on next time.

The desynch issues with the servers suck but it is typical of a game this young unfortunately.

[netherstone]

Dark and light will be better than citadel especially after some development time. your money is safe with DNL