Iron hook Arrows Vs Stone Hook Arrows

[Denior13]

My tribe and I just did a test with these two different taming arrows and this is what we came up with.
I sat on a tamed boar and had a tribe-mate shoot it with a stone hook arrow. I then ran till the tether broke and the constitution went from 0 to 79.1
I then waited for the constitution to go back to zero and had him shoot the boar with another stone hook arrow for consistency and it once again did 79.1.
Next came shooting the boar with an Iron Hook arrow and we repeated the exact same steps...started at 0 constitution get shot with Iron Hook arrow run away till tether broke and it only did 100.3 constitution!!!!

This means that it is only a 21.2 constitution increase from stone hook arrows to iron hook arrows. This seems to be severely broken or not working as intended as iron hook arrows require far more mats and time per arrow to make.

If anyone has come up with different results on this I would love to know. I think we are going to try it with a flyer next to see if there is any difference.

[Boatabike]

Did the breaking point change? Range it pulls out? Was the torpor building up as it pulled out or was it all at the breaking point? And how long did it take to drop?

[Denior13]

Breaking point appeared to be the same and the topor acted the exact same as the stone hook arrow. It is an instant bust of torpor as soon as tether broke. Then the torpor instantly starts to recover.

[Dwarfurious]

What was your allies attack stat? Can you have someone else try this? I believe that the effect scales with Attack, as taming in general has become easier. Testing this myself, my stone hook arrow did 80 tarpor. So the iron hook may just scale better eventually. But i agree thats not nearly effective enough for the cost. Were it to be as effective as the cost would indicate you could down most animals in 2 shots

[Denior13]

That is a good point I'll try shooting the pig with a stone hook arrow this time since I have 195% Attack power and see if it does a higher topor percentage.

[Dwarfurious]

It would be pretty miniscule, since even with 250 attack i only did 1 point more, so assuming your friend must of had high attack as well?

[Latriam]

I agree iron should be at least 1 1/2 times better than stone

[Denior13]

Ok original tribe-mate had 145% attack and shot the pig with stone hook arrow causing 79.1 torpor.
Another tribe-mate shot the pig with 255% attack with stone hook arrow and it did 79.1 again.
We then tried and elite crossbow with 255% attack and it did 100.9 torpor to the pig.
So far it seems that only the quality of the weapon the arrow is fired from affects the torpor.

[Dwarfurious]

Ah that might be it then, i used a crossbow instead of a wood bow.

[Denior13]

Ok so we just tried it on one of our tamed griffins and the results were exactly the same 79.1 topor with stone and 100.3 with the iron hook arrow. So it appears that creature types do not matter either between flying or land.

[Mortavius]

Also a good thing to know, so I will add something in exchange for this knowledge you've shared:"

Monsters can drop better quality weapons and armor than players can currently make. I've seen uncommon and rare suits and weapons that have greater stats than what can be made by players currently.

Keep an eye out for blue weapons, if it is indeed the quality of the weapon that affects torpor.

[Bansheedragon]

Originally posted by Denior:

Breaking point appeared to be the same and the topor acted the exact same as the stone hook arrow. It is an instant bust of torpor as soon as tether broke. Then the torpor instantly starts to recover.

This is interesting info, I thought the torpor built up while it was tethered and not an instant gain when it breaks.
To me it would seem more logical to have it be a gradual build up while its tethered rather than an instant gain when it breaks.

One question though
Did yo notice if the speed of the creature was affected when you did this?
I had a friend of mine who is interested ask me if it slows the creature down.

[[HdF] Almut Grete]

YOuld it be that the iron arrows are better vs mythical and/or flyers in general? e.g. they can hook them in air or pull them down even?

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Latriam:

I agree iron should be at least 1 1/2 times better than stone

Or make them 1 1/2 times easier to make..

[gatsublack]

Nice thread guys!
Did u also test if the xbow inflicts more torpor than bow?

[Aldo]

I found that there are a few creatures... Wyverns are one of them, that STONE Hook arrows wont attach too. Therefor you cant tame using them.
Must use IRON Hook Arrows on them.