Rustangelo

Rustangelo

Johnnycyan Jan 30, 2019 @ 12:07pm
If you're having trouble with colors in Rustangelo
Runstagelo only uses 100 colors. And that is with slightly cheating and calling every different shade of grey a color (of which there are at least 20 shades of grey so only 80 shades of other colors). Ever seen a gif and wondered why the colors looked so weird? (Example image with 256 colors https://doc-0s-14-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/qeusubt40b3fjsrdih61bm237labme03/0bgpihe7egm5hbqipib8ujv43h9qpt8a/1548871200000/11915896117003566878/11915896117003566878/1UnojY4muYh9FEqp7-knYDkleRsY-fLGx?h=02265645163298716182&nonce=4rmc8e80c9gv0&user=11915896117003566878&hash=0aafpudhl1mqe552r4g8pp9fm9n00par ) That's because they only had 256 colors. 256! That's over twice as many and still it looks weird. Actual images use millions of colors to produce something that looks right to us. There are apparently hidden colors in Rust that Rustangelo could've used but for some reason either chose not to or didn't know they existed. You can make your own mind up about that. https://imgur.com/r/playrust/L7P0f When the colors that Rustangelo can't paint exist in your chosen picture the program just tries to find a color that is close that it can actually paint. I've found that if you try to draw any pastel pinks it cannot draw them at all so it chooses either orange or brown. Once I started choosing pictures that don't have pastel pinks all of my paintings have turned out perfectly fine.

Also as far as text goes, if you want it to take less time you have to make sure that every color you use to make your text exists in Rustangelo. You can see all the colors or at least most of them by going to the background color selection after right clicking the image in Rustangelo. Use any of these colors and Rustangelo will do a great job of replicating them in game.

Another important note that I discovered myself is that the thing that affects the drawing time the most is how many pixels on your screen the canvas takes up. If you're on a 4k monitor you need to play in windowed so that you can shrink your game window down to something more reasonable for Rustangelo to work with. Think of it this way. If you take a 1024x512 image (which is the largest image that you can actually paint in Rust because the XXL canvas is that resolution https://rustimage.com/signs.php ) and tell Rustangelo to paint it on your screen in an area that is 4x the size of the image it will have to draw every pixel 4 times which will take 4 times longer than if you were to size your game window/canvas appropriately. I went from taking nearly 5 hours to paint something to only taking around 1.5 to 2. And for text it takes about 11-20m depending on the complexity.

One quick thing about text is that even if you choose plain black for your text your computer doesn't just use plain black to represent that to you. If it did you would end up with really bad edges on your text. So instead it feathers the edges using more transparent versions of what color you chose. So if you choose black, the edges of your text will actually be a form of grey if they are on a white background. This is why Rustangelo will go over black text up to 20 times to get all of the different shades of grey to smooth out the text which is why it takes 11-20m instead of like 2m but you get a much better result.

And just quickly in case anyone doesn't realize. Your background color in Rustangelo MUST be the background color you actually paint. And you have to make sure that if Rustangelo tells you to "paint the background this color first before painting(and points to a spot in the image)" you have to right click the dithered image and select white as the background color again. Sometimes if you don't do this the colors can be really weird as it's trying to offset from the wrong background color.

So all in all it's not gonna be perfect but there are ways you can make it better and faster for yourself.
Last edited by Johnnycyan; Jan 29, 2021 @ 2:42pm
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Ghutros Feb 25, 2019 @ 7:19pm 
Speaking of, I can't find the color palette. Any clues where it could be? I've got the basic PRO
ive got free and its just a black blob
Thomus Jan 25, 2021 @ 6:11am 
I have Advanced and get a black blob as well.
derbmann [AUT] Jan 29, 2021 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by Johnnycyan:
There are only more then 100 colors. I'll repeat. Only more then 100 colors.

Seems like you are the Dev who try to defend his cash cow.
Delete half of your Text because its in the same category as the Software.:
https://imgur.com/r/playrust/L7P0f

Srsly do not defend this crap. I agree that ppl could use it in a better way but in the first place Rustangelo isnt finish and just a cash cow in my opinion.

Johnnycyan Jan 29, 2021 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by derbmann AUT:
Originally posted by Johnnycyan:
There are only more then 100 colors. I'll repeat. Only more then 100 colors.

Seems like you are the Dev who try to defend his cash cow.
Delete half of your Text because its in the same category as the Software.:
https://imgur.com/r/playrust/L7P0f

Srsly do not defend this crap. I agree that ppl could use it in a better way but in the first place Rustangelo isnt finish and just a cash cow in my opinion.

I don't know why you decided you had to be so hostile but I'll just chalk that up to waking up on the wrong side of the bed.

I never actually knew about these extra colors but at the same time in my opinion the money I spent on the program was well worth it. I've gotten many a laugh from using it with my friends.

I can assure you I am not and do not know the developer of Rustangelo; I've just used it for a long time now and even though it may not be perfect, and not utilize these hidden colors, it was still worth my money. If the dev really wanted to make Rustangelo a cash cow he would've made it a subscription service. If it was a subscription service I wouldn't have bought it.

But yes I will change my post now that I know there are actually more colors in Rust than meets the eye. I didn't know this when I made the post so I apologize about that.

Everything other than the 100 colors in my post is still relevant information for using Rustangelo though and I hope it will help those who choose to use it.
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