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For pendegrunes there is a similar rumor horst has called something like 'ores that shine in the darkness' for 600 fennel, however I haven't actually found the area this rumor is linked to. Likewise if you beat high ranked boss rumors you can also get pendegrunes just as easily. I consider this to be the go-to way to get them until you beat the final boss (since the bonus area has high quality ingredients of all types within it including pendegrunes).
Piece of advice though try doing all the rumor bosses on at a minimum hard difficulty it seems like to me it increases the drop rate of rarer materials. For example I have never gotten a dragon heart from Magmodeus (boss at the fallen palace) on normal, but on hard I get one around half the time and one time on despair I had him drop 2 of them.