About a familiar face from A15.

[Clear|Mobius]

(Yes I´m a A15 Fanboy, but i just wanted to drop some facts :3)

Some people say that this Logy here is a complete new person, but there are some points that this cant be true. (imo)

Pro(+)

-The same Voice Actor (in both languages)
-The same Eye Color
-Works again as a Weaponsmith

Logy gets introduced as "Logy/Logix" (In A15 Logix Fiscario)

In the scene where you see Logy for the first time he says that he came back from a long
travel,which could mean he came back from Colseit.

Contra(-)
Logy said that he lived for some years in Kirchen Bell.
Logy never tells something about his past.



I´m pretty sure that this is the same Logy as in A15.
Does someone else has an argument for this Topic?

[Ogami]

Well the most conclusive argument is that GUST themselves said he is not the same character.
GUST just likes to do this with some of their characters, give them roles in other games but its not REALLY the same person you knew from before.
Same for Pamela in Atelier Sophie. Its clearly Pamela, she is still a ghost but she cant be the Pamela from previous games since she "lived" as a ghost for hundreds of years already in Kirchen Bell. (btw nice german word pun there, because Kirche means Church, so the town is named Church Bell"

I see these things just like Square does with Final Fantasy. There are always characters named Biggs and Wedge and a mechanic named Cid in all their games even if they are not the same persons.

[Top Loser]

If you think that it's possible for

1. Shallie Logy and Sophie Logy to be in two different places at the same time (!!!!!!)
2. For Escha to become a loli in Firis (yes really, she's 11)
3. For Logy to forget his alchemy and everything related to it in favor of being a normal blacksmith (they even comment how he might have a 'talent' for alchemy but he isn't interested)
4. For Logy to suddenly forget all his living in Central and only remember Kirchen Bell

Then I don't know what to tell you.

Like Pamela, like Hagel, the Mysterious Escha & Logy are different people from the Dusk Escha & Logy.

[Misaki]

I think this stuff is called multiverse. Well, at least it's convenient. Does it bother you?

[Gyatt Rizzler]

it's different universe, so i expect it to be different people

[Clear|Mobius]

Originally posted by Misaki:

I think this stuff is called multiverse. Well, at least it's convenient. Does it bother you?

No, it wouldnt bother me at all.

[Clear|Mobius]

Originally posted by Drache the Dork:

If you think that it's possible for

1. Shallie Logy and Sophie Logy to be in two different places at the same time (!!!!!!)
2. For Escha to become a loli in Firis (yes really, she's 11)
3. For Logy to forget his alchemy and everything related to it in favor of being a normal blacksmith (they even comment how he might have a 'talent' for alchemy but he isn't interested)
4. For Logy to suddenly forget all his living in Central and only remember Kirchen Bell

Then I don't know what to tell you.

Like Pamela, like Hagel, the Mysterious Escha & Logy are different people from the Dusk Escha & Logy.

To your 1st point:
Shallie Logy was at that time 18 years old, while the Sophie Logy is 24 years old. So i dont think he could be at two different places at the same time.

To your 2nd point:
Im really shocked right now. xD

To your 3rd and 4th point:
Like i said i would think that Logy wouldnt really like to talk about his past/share his information what he have done in his time while he was in Central/Colseit/Dusk Sea.

But well you´re also right.

He´s even coming back in Atelier Firis and gets older. (28 years old)

[Top Loser]

1. Shallie Logy is 24. 18 is his E&L age.

2. Just keep in mind. She's not Dusk Escha. She will never be Dusk Escha. She's not my Escha. And she's not really a repeat of Rorona. (But I'm still kind of sad.)

3&4. The point is that his entire backstory changed. There are more points than just his age pointing to the impossibility of him being the same person as Dusk logy.

[blackageha]

Originally posted by Kami Sakurai:

He´s even coming back in Atelier Firis and gets older. (28 years old)

You mean its 4 years later???
Wait, wait,
Sophie and Placta never changed their fashion in Firis? What...

[Shylaar]

Originally posted by blackageha:

Sophie and Placta never changed their fashion in Firis? What...

Changing characters' designs and outfits to make them appear older and different is old hat, new Gust just does a palette swap and calls it a day.

[blackageha]

Originally posted by Cerzel:

Changing characters' designs and outfits to make them appear older and different is old hat, new Gust just does a palette swap and calls it a day.

That's actually pretty sad...I was hoping for a little love, a little thought into the characters. Don't just be done with them after 1 game...

[Gyatt Rizzler]

Originally posted by Cerzel:

Originally posted by blackageha:

Sophie and Placta never changed their fashion in Firis? What...

Changing characters' designs and outfits to make them appear older and different is old hat, new Gust just does a palette swap and calls it a day.

u know what? i actually prefer the old matured rorona lmao

[Clear|Mobius]

Originally posted by blackageha:

Originally posted by Kami Sakurai:

He´s even coming back in Atelier Firis and gets older. (28 years old)

You mean its 4 years later???
Wait, wait,
Sophie and Placta never changed their fashion in Firis? What...

Thats right, Sophie and Placta didnt changed their design.
But Oskar got an big change.

Have a look on this page, and scroll down to the Characters.
http://atelier.wikia.com/wiki/Atelier_Firis%3A_The_Alchemist_of_the_Mysterious_Journey

[blackageha]

Originally posted by Kami Sakurai:

Thats right, Sophie and Placta didnt changed their design.
But Oskar got an big change.

Have a look on this page, and scroll down to the Characters.
http://atelier.wikia.com/wiki/Atelier_Firis%3A_The_Alchemist_of_the_Mysterious_Journey

Now I have an incentive to find out why he finally did change.

[Clear|Mobius]

Originally posted by Drache the Dork:

1. Shallie Logy is 24. 18 is his E&L age.

Where did you get the Information that Shallie Logy is/was 24 years old?
I dont find this info anywhere.

[Algester]

Shallie happens 6 years after E&L it is also important to buy the artbooks for the games as thats where the misc info dump is actually stamped on and is placed 10 years after ayesha so the math is simple, its also to note that no previous atelier protagonist has appeared in their 30s, Rorona was the first atelier protagonist to hit the christmas cake age hence her "de-aging" as remember shes like 33-36 depending on which region of the game you play for meruru even meruru plus still sticks to her rorona age at 14-16 by a proper youth potion and with the alchemist ending