Any missables? Tips?

[blackageha]

Game's gonna be out soon so might as well start discussing.

Also if I farm too many items would it take a long time for it to come back?

[Dazenith]

For the most part you shouldn't need to worry.
There is no time limit in the game.
Afaik there aren't any missables per se.
But certain events only happen on specific days of the week or after certain other conditions are met like obtaining a specific amount of friendship with the character.

As far as tips go:

• Days of the Week - The world in Atelier Sophie runs on a 5 day week consisting of Sprout, Bud, Flower, Fruit, and Seed. Fruit and Seed are the weekend.
  
• Material Rumors - When you buy a material rumor go asap to the location mentioned in it. The rumors are limited time and will be a large waste of money if you don't get the materials. Don't worry about not being able to purchase every material rumor, they do repeat eventually but are random.
  Btw for the most part they just provide better quality materials of the type sometimes with specific traits like Size+. However a few material rumors allow access to otherwise unavailable materials.
  
• Events - As said certain events can only occur during certain times of the week. Eg. Tess is only available during weekends (Fruit and Seed). People also move around the town of Kirchen Bell over the course of a day and have different schedules on different days and certain events can only be triggered in certain areas. Eg. Elise has an event that occurs in the forest behind your house but only after a few previous ones are completed. Events are semi time gated. You can only trigger one character event with a specific character each day. Every named character has events, talk to them whenever you are free and especially if they are in a place that is different from the norm.
  
• Alchemy System - Be mindful of what you are making and what effects it can gain at certain thresholds. Every item placed in the grid will produce 'stars' around it which provide boosts to items placed on those tiles stackable up to 3 times (bigger star). If you are wanting a specific effect more than others be sure to place the items related to it last on the biggest stars. Try to pick ingredients of the same colour as much as possible when crafting. Every item placed of a colour provides a percentage boost to the final effect thresholds of that colour.
  
• Enemies - Certain enemies only appear during specific times of the day. Like the Ghosts in Chick Woods (the first area) only appear at Night. Some monsters also only appear during certain weather events like Rain.
  
• Material Spots - Much like enemies can change depending on the time of day and weather.
  
• Quests - Quests like Material Rumors sometimes have limited durations. Afaik limited duration quests are not required to progress specifically. Again like Rumors they are random and repeatable if you get the same one again.

I hope this helps.
I will be releasing this information as well as much more in a guide I'm currently working on.

[blackageha]

Wow! Thanks!

[Dazenith]

I was constantly editing that changing a few things. Just go over it again and make sure you got everything.

[blackageha]

Hold on,
Does this time limit thing means the events are restricted like going through character A but then not enough time for character B ala Persona 3?
Edit:
AKA like in 1 playthrough I cannot see all character events?

[Dazenith]

As I said there is no time limit.
You can spend as many days as you want idling around the countryside of Kirchen Bell.
Though getting to a certain point will finish the game however you should be able to do all character events and collect just about everything before that as long as you don't progress too much down the main storyline too quickly.
However I don't know the specifics.

Also don't forget to examine the barrels.

[blackageha]

Got it!

[Kiru]

Timelimit is just something that comes with a lot of Atelier games, as they are also.. kinda.. managing games. For example in Atelier Totori you even get something called Chims that you have to "pay" so they work for you. You can give them tasks like gather material at certain places for you or make certain things so you don't have to spend time yourself.
As such you manage your time-schedule. Going to places takes time, making things takes time, gathering stuff takes time. Events however don't. (for the most part)

It's nice. Especially Totori succeeds in making you understand the grim reality of companies. You can pay your Chims any "pie" you want (yep, they want pie), but you WILL pay them the cheapest you can. Time is finite. Your budget is finite. You'll want every advantage you can. Paying those workers the least you can so they actually work comes naturally. It's actually a very fun game.



Now, that said, this game doesn't have that. But for new people it should be nice to know where the series comes from. And this is still having an effect in this game as well. Your main-task is managing your equipment and items as far as gameplay goes. WAY more than in any other j-rpg. You just don't have to worry about using your time to gather and make stuff efficiently.

Still, you can tinker a lot with your items, and if that's not fun to you, there's not that much else. If the idea to constantly get new material that makes it possible to create some stronger items, or the idea to create a "chain" of items to get this certain great effect on your target item so it becomes OP don't appeal to you, Atelier is probably not your series. There is pretty much nothing to compare this series with. Perhaps a little bit Persona/SMT with its fusing, though synthesis is far more powerful, in-depth and focused on than fusion is in those games.

[Dazenith]

Nice addition Kiru.
Yes iterative crafting in particular is a central element to the series.
You will be crafting a lot of things and several of them multiple times as you get better materials and learn new production chains.
In particular there are some loops that can be exploited to craft amazing gear.

Atelier Firis the sequel to Sophie however does add a small element of time limit back in the mix due to Firis having to complete her license in 1 year after the start but after that is done there is once again no time limit and you are free to explore as much as you want.

[blackageha]

I see, thanks!

[Zanameth]

I'd like to ask about replayability. Are there any stuff like newgame+ and/or extra stuff post-game content in general? Thanks!

[Pan Paka Pan]

This thread is a spoiler party for me, skipping it >.>

[Dazenith]

Originally posted by シ:

This thread is a spoiler party for me, skipping it >.>

Don't see how this spoiling just about anything yet at least for Sophie. The Chims however were a bit of a spoiler for the older titles.

Originally posted by Zanameth:

I'd like to ask about replayability. Are there any stuff like newgame+ and/or extra stuff post-game content in general? Thanks!

Unfortunately there isn't a NG+ in this game.
If you like crafting awesome gear that alone can keep you playing for hours.
There are also a lot of character events.
Lastly this game may or may not receive additional content in the future.
Gust has done so with the previous sub series. Though those were actually porting to Vita so it is unknown if they will add anything to these.

Also this game is rather slice of lifey. Sophie isn't trying to save the world or anything. She's just trying to become a better Alchemist to help the people of Kirchen Bell.

[Zanameth]

Originally posted by Dazenith:

Originally posted by シ:

This thread is a spoiler party for me, skipping it >.>

Don't see how this spoiling just about anything yet at least for Sophie. The Chims however were a bit of a spoiler for the older titles.

Originally posted by Zanameth:

I'd like to ask about replayability. Are there any stuff like newgame+ and/or extra stuff post-game content in general? Thanks!

Unfortunately there isn't a NG+ in this game.
If you like crafting awesome gear that alone can keep you playing for hours.
There are also a lot of character events.
Lastly this game may or may not receive additional content in the future.
Gust has done so with the previous sub series. Though those were actually porting to Vita so it is unknown if they will add anything to these.

Also this game is rather slice of lifey. Sophie isn't trying to save the world or anything. She's just trying to become a better Alchemist to help the people of Kirchen Bell.

All right, thanks for the details. That means I'll have to take my time on the first playthrough.

[Dazenith]

Originally posted by Zanameth:

All right, thanks for the details. That means I'll have to take my time on the first playthrough.

Actually I've read up that the game doesn't actually end after you beat the final boss per se.
You can continue indefinitely after that I think.
I'm not sure if that means you can still complete events but it might be so.
If that's the case then there is literally no time limit to really anything.
I'm not entirely sure though.

[Zanameth]

Originally posted by Dazenith:

Originally posted by Zanameth:

All right, thanks for the details. That means I'll have to take my time on the first playthrough.

Actually I've read up that the game doesn't actually end after you beat the final boss per se.
You can continue indefinitely after that I think.
I'm not sure if that means you can still complete events but it might be so.
If that's the case then there is literally no time limit to really anything.
I'm not entirely sure though.

Guess we'll find out next week