dont support FNTASTIC, wold eight, or hypetrain

[devlldriver05]

dudes scammed 210k people out of their money on the day before, dumped it, and rebranded. scumbags

[Luna ~]

hypetrain is a completely different company and for the games they publish ill keep supporting tyvm, they arent even close to scammers.
FNTASTIC are the scammers however.

[PunchBob]

Originally posted by Luna:

hypetrain is a completely different company and for the games they publish ill keep supporting tyvm, they arent even close to scammers.
FNTASTIC are the scammers however.

Really?
https://insider-gaming.com/fntastic-appears-to-have-simply-changed-its-name-to-eight-points/

[marcew44]

Let's assume it's actually FNTASTIC behind this game. Now, first question: Why would they "come back" to this game which is mostly forgotten and isn't that expensive? I don't see much reason on that. Plus they were associated with it in the past too which is how this whole thing got started;
Second question: Why would FNTASTIC come back like, 1 day after their demise? If you want to keep scamming people, that's the least thing someone would do, at least in my opinion;
Third and final question: How The Day Before even got so much hype? I know it looked good on the first trailer but the gameplay they showed earlier this year wasn't great and people have been calling it a scam for some time, why people still bought it anyway?

[Lizzy]

Originally posted by Winter:

Eight Points and Fntastic are two different companies - Hypetrain changed the name to Eight Points again, so people dont think that this has something to do with Fntastic. Fntastic started developing this, but then Hypetrain and Eight Points took over, so its more their project and not Fntastic.

Sadly can only give a german source for this so far. But beeing mad at this game, doesnt change anything.

https://www.gamesaktuell.de/The-Day-Before-Spiel-73225/News/fntastic-eight-points-entwickler-steam-1436173/

Here a copy paste from me with all proper sources that explain your point


2017 The Wild Eight got Sold to Hypetrain because there where internal conflicts at the time like mentioned here https://steamcommunity.com/app/526160/discussions/0/1483235412197477924/?l=koreana&ctp=2



Originally posted by ryozombaku:
Guys, Alex here, former developer of The Wild Eight.

I can not disclose how the internal affairs of the company go, but I want to speak out as a real human being.
The game was sold because of legal problems with unscrupulous partners within company (not with the publisher, we really appreciate the support and work of HypeTrain).
Something bad happened, and the whole development team felt very bad about it. We did not want to betray the trust of our community, but we simply had no other choice.

That's life. There is no big tragedy here. The most important thing you should know
that the game continues to evolve. As d.a.dekhs said, the game will be finished, filled with new stuff and released as planned.

By the way, before we transferred the project to HypeTrain, we did a lot of work on the game, so even when the final version of the game is released - remember that the influence of the original
developers will still be here. Thank you for listening.

Then it was even mentioned back then on their Steam page.
"What happened to The Wild Eight?

We sold The Wild Eight to our publisher. This decision was very hard for us, because our team was hoping to always evolve the game. The Wild Eight is our debut project, it brought us first success and valuable experience. But nevertheless, because of internal conflict with partners within the company, we had to sell the project to the publisher, who is now successfully supporting the project. We will always love The Wild Eight, it's in our hearts."

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/the-wild-eight-left-for-dead-dozen

Then Eurogamer talked to HypeTrain:
UPDATE 5pm UK: Hype Train Digital has confirmed to Eurogamer why it changed the developer on Steam for The Wild Eight from Fntastic to Eight Points.

The change was made yesterday, which Hype Train has confirmed was due to the game receiving negative reviews on Steam following the debacle with The Day Before.

"Fntastic was the original developer of The Wild Eight, but after the game's release in Early Access, the developers decided to discontinue work on the project due to internal reasons within the studio. Hypetrain Digital took over the development independently. All business relations with Fntastic were terminated in 2017," reads the response to Eurogamer.

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-day-before-publisher-apologises-for-game-as-steam-refunds-open


If Fntastic really renamed you wouldn't just see it on The wild eight too because it would reflect on all store pages of their games. Also from what i researched the original Team was just a few people called Eight Point but they grew while developing the Wild Eight and then had internal conflicts. The Original Devs split away the game got sold and the left over Staff renamed to Fntastic. HypeTrain wanted to still leave them the credit to the While Eight but when TDB hit they wanted to distance themself rightfully so.

Fntastic deserves Sh*t but not an innocent publisher who has for years nothing to do anymore with them.

[Winter]

Originally posted by Lizzy:

Originally posted by Winter:

Eight Points and Fntastic are two different companies - Hypetrain changed the name to Eight Points again, so people dont think that this has something to do with Fntastic. Fntastic started developing this, but then Hypetrain and Eight Points took over, so its more their project and not Fntastic.

Sadly can only give a german source for this so far. But beeing mad at this game, doesnt change anything.

https://www.gamesaktuell.de/The-Day-Before-Spiel-73225/News/fntastic-eight-points-entwickler-steam-1436173/

Here a copy paste from me with all proper sources that explain your point


2017 The Wild Eight got Sold to Hypetrain because there where internal conflicts at the time like mentioned here https://steamcommunity.com/app/526160/discussions/0/1483235412197477924/?l=koreana&ctp=2



Originally posted by ryozombaku:
Guys, Alex here, former developer of The Wild Eight.

I can not disclose how the internal affairs of the company go, but I want to speak out as a real human being.
The game was sold because of legal problems with unscrupulous partners within company (not with the publisher, we really appreciate the support and work of HypeTrain).
Something bad happened, and the whole development team felt very bad about it. We did not want to betray the trust of our community, but we simply had no other choice.

That's life. There is no big tragedy here. The most important thing you should know
that the game continues to evolve. As d.a.dekhs said, the game will be finished, filled with new stuff and released as planned.

By the way, before we transferred the project to HypeTrain, we did a lot of work on the game, so even when the final version of the game is released - remember that the influence of the original
developers will still be here. Thank you for listening.

Then it was even mentioned back then on their Steam page.
"What happened to The Wild Eight?

We sold The Wild Eight to our publisher. This decision was very hard for us, because our team was hoping to always evolve the game. The Wild Eight is our debut project, it brought us first success and valuable experience. But nevertheless, because of internal conflict with partners within the company, we had to sell the project to the publisher, who is now successfully supporting the project. We will always love The Wild Eight, it's in our hearts."

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/the-wild-eight-left-for-dead-dozen

Then Eurogamer talked to HypeTrain:
UPDATE 5pm UK: Hype Train Digital has confirmed to Eurogamer why it changed the developer on Steam for The Wild Eight from Fntastic to Eight Points.

The change was made yesterday, which Hype Train has confirmed was due to the game receiving negative reviews on Steam following the debacle with The Day Before.

"Fntastic was the original developer of The Wild Eight, but after the game's release in Early Access, the developers decided to discontinue work on the project due to internal reasons within the studio. Hypetrain Digital took over the development independently. All business relations with Fntastic were terminated in 2017," reads the response to Eurogamer.

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-day-before-publisher-apologises-for-game-as-steam-refunds-open


If Fntastic really renamed you wouldn't just see it on The wild eight too because it would reflect on all store pages of their games. Also from what i researched the original Team was just a few people called Eight Point but they grew while developing the Wild Eight and then had internal conflicts. The Original Devs split away the game got sold and the left over Staff renamed to Fntastic. HypeTrain wanted to still leave them the credit to the While Eight but when TDB hit they wanted to distance themself rightfully so.

Fntastic deserves Sh*t but not an innocent publisher who has for years nothing to do anymore with them.

Thanks for clearing this, deleted my first post, because i was really unsure, i tried to look up some news about this, but found so many different informations, but no clear info that said if this game is fully their doing or not.

And im fully on this, that beeing mad about a company and a game that has nothing to do with what happend with the day before, is not the right choice.

[Lizzy]

Originally posted by Winter:

Originally posted by Lizzy:

Here a copy paste from me with all proper sources that explain your point


2017 The Wild Eight got Sold to Hypetrain because there where internal conflicts at the time like mentioned here https://steamcommunity.com/app/526160/discussions/0/1483235412197477924/?l=koreana&ctp=2



Originally posted by ryozombaku:
Guys, Alex here, former developer of The Wild Eight.

I can not disclose how the internal affairs of the company go, but I want to speak out as a real human being.
The game was sold because of legal problems with unscrupulous partners within company (not with the publisher, we really appreciate the support and work of HypeTrain).
Something bad happened, and the whole development team felt very bad about it. We did not want to betray the trust of our community, but we simply had no other choice.

That's life. There is no big tragedy here. The most important thing you should know
that the game continues to evolve. As d.a.dekhs said, the game will be finished, filled with new stuff and released as planned.

By the way, before we transferred the project to HypeTrain, we did a lot of work on the game, so even when the final version of the game is released - remember that the influence of the original
developers will still be here. Thank you for listening.

Then it was even mentioned back then on their Steam page.
"What happened to The Wild Eight?

We sold The Wild Eight to our publisher. This decision was very hard for us, because our team was hoping to always evolve the game. The Wild Eight is our debut project, it brought us first success and valuable experience. But nevertheless, because of internal conflict with partners within the company, we had to sell the project to the publisher, who is now successfully supporting the project. We will always love The Wild Eight, it's in our hearts."

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/the-wild-eight-left-for-dead-dozen

Then Eurogamer talked to HypeTrain:
UPDATE 5pm UK: Hype Train Digital has confirmed to Eurogamer why it changed the developer on Steam for The Wild Eight from Fntastic to Eight Points.

The change was made yesterday, which Hype Train has confirmed was due to the game receiving negative reviews on Steam following the debacle with The Day Before.

"Fntastic was the original developer of The Wild Eight, but after the game's release in Early Access, the developers decided to discontinue work on the project due to internal reasons within the studio. Hypetrain Digital took over the development independently. All business relations with Fntastic were terminated in 2017," reads the response to Eurogamer.

https://www.eurogamer.net/the-day-before-publisher-apologises-for-game-as-steam-refunds-open


If Fntastic really renamed you wouldn't just see it on The wild eight too because it would reflect on all store pages of their games. Also from what i researched the original Team was just a few people called Eight Point but they grew while developing the Wild Eight and then had internal conflicts. The Original Devs split away the game got sold and the left over Staff renamed to Fntastic. HypeTrain wanted to still leave them the credit to the While Eight but when TDB hit they wanted to distance themself rightfully so.

Fntastic deserves Sh*t but not an innocent publisher who has for years nothing to do anymore with them.

Thanks for clearing this, deleted my first post, because i was really unsure, i tried to look up some news about this, but found so many different informations, but no clear info that said if this game is fully their doing or not.

And im fully on this, that beeing mad about a company and a game that has nothing to do with what happend with the day before, is not the right choice.

I find it insane tbh because it can damage HypeTrain alot. Like I get it people are mad and all but you also don't go after a person who shared 1 workplace for a year with a Murderer unknowingly and after that 1 year the person went elsewhere to work.

[Winter]

Originally posted by Lizzy:

Originally posted by Winter:

Thanks for clearing this, deleted my first post, because i was really unsure, i tried to look up some news about this, but found so many different informations, but no clear info that said if this game is fully their doing or not.

And im fully on this, that beeing mad about a company and a game that has nothing to do with what happend with the day before, is not the right choice.

I find it insane tbh because it can damage HypeTrain alot. Like I get it people are mad and all but you also don't go after a person who shared 1 workplace for a year with a Murderer unknowingly and after that 1 year the person went elsewhere to work.

This!
Its a smaller indie publisher and this could and probably already caused some damage.
They cant change what happend to TDB.
Hope that this helps people see, whats really going on.

Thanks again for the help.

[Rusty_S]

Originally posted by Winter:

Originally posted by Lizzy:

I find it insane tbh because it can damage HypeTrain alot. Like I get it people are mad and all but you also don't go after a person who shared 1 workplace for a year with a Murderer unknowingly and after that 1 year the person went elsewhere to work.

This!
Its a smaller indie publisher and this could and probably already caused some damage.
They cant change what happend to TDB.
Hope that this helps people see, whats really going on.

Thanks again for the help.

This is why steam took steps to stop review bombing, which I didnt agree with as it was in response to review bombing Metro Exodus which was on steam and the day before launch it was pulled from steam and made an exclusive on the epic store. I could agree with review bombing that game for that shady move done by the developer/publisher and shouldnt have been allowed by Steam after so many copies were sold via pre order on steam.

How ever in this instance I think these negative reviews should be removed all 56 of them that are recent because they are not real reviews but review bombing with the intent of harming an innocent publisher/developer. Based off the preview reviews it appears this game was a good game and people enjoyed it and that can all be undone by brain dead mouth breathers.

I never heard of this game but it is now on my wish list cause this mouth breather review bombing attacking a game falsely that doesnt deserve it is what brought this to my attention and I will eventually be getting it myself.

[PunchBob]

Funny to see how 2 buryat brothers - Eduard & Eisen Gotovtsevs - are proving here under different accounts (Lizzy & Winter) that their studio was indeed closed and review bombing of this abandonware is wrong. Sure thing, boys, russians don't lie only with mouth shut.

[Lizzy]

Originally posted by PunchBob:

Funny to see how 2 buryat brothers - Eduard & Eisen Gotovtsevs - are proving here under different accounts (Lizzy & Winter) that their studio was indeed closed and review bombing of this abandonware is wrong. Sure thing, boys, russians don't lie only with mouth shut.

Ah yes totally don't smoke too much might inflict way too much psychosis

[Ailes]

They didn't rebrand. Stop spreading fake news. You're no better than Fntastic was if you do.